My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

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My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby ngamokai » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:03 am

Ok,
1: it IS quieter than the Equinox
2: it is faster
3: It is NOT easier to cock at all, side by side theres just no way it s the same.
4: it is a beast :twisted:
way lighter and good to shoot. the scope is crap, sorry but a spade is a spade, its great to use and I will be keeping it for now but I like hi quality optics and the tac zone is not.
the finish is average but I really don't care, its a tool for filling my freezer and it will do that very well indeed.
My friend and I put around 87 odd arrows through her today and got it shooting dead on at 20 yards. the view was too good to go to a place to shoot out to 60 so Ill be shooting more over the coming days, I did not shoot the Diablo arrows, I used my custom arrows @ 436 grains, 150 field tips and 3" vanes, awesome :cool:

I was getting some flyers but most groups were in the 1 to 2" area. stuffed 4 arrows robin hood styles, sorry no pics of groups as I just did not think of it, at the time, I did a small vid and a few of the bows so you can understand why I did not want to go anywhere for distance shooting.

over all I am happy, I think Excalibur should maybe up the price a little and put a scope on it that does the bow justice but thats just me......


the vid of me firing Katipo :mrgreen:
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side by side Equinox and Katipo
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the view
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the drive home

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just so you all know, I take these pics as I know most of you are waiting for better weather and stuck indoors a lot, so it is for your entertainment, I hope you have had as much fun reading my journey into my Matrix as I have. keep safe
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Re: My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby JT of PA » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:05 am

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You indeed live in a stunningly beautiful land.

Thanks for the latest update/thoughts as you go through the wringing-out phase.

All the best.

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Re: My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby vixenmaster » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:24 am

Yup fine review even better views, looks like Fishin to me. Go out sip a couple cold ones sit in the sun n relax :)
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Re: My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby mowerman » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:00 am

Nice review, Matt. I am in complete agreement on the Tact Zone scope. Loved the light weight and it was extremely clear when held just right. We are talking absolute dead on, don't twitch, don't blink, don't breath dead center. Problem being, if you did not have your eye dead center in one very small area, it was smear city. How do you hunt a whitetail moving through brush with that?
I have been using scopes for 50 years and this may be the worst; next to one I bought in 1964 at TG&Y for a BB gun for $1.00. Anyway, sent it back to Danny M and am upgrading to the 2 x 7 Leupold. Don't believe they are made in China.
My Matrix 355 is top notch. I love it and am very proud to own it. I just hope the next time I pay almost a grand for an Excalibur, it has something on top that is not made in China.
Some guys like them, some don't. I just happen to be one that can't make it function.
Just my 2 cents worth fella's. Have a great day!
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Re: My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby Deaf jeff » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:51 am

this is the first user review that i have read that says the 380 is not easier to cock :?: glad i am leaning towards the 355, and have the crankaroo just in case
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Re: My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby taz3 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:27 am

Great review and glad you're happy with it! :D

I'm hoping they'll sell a bare model, rather then step it up with a better scope. while most guys are happy with some models of scopes, it would be nice to add what each prefers on their own rather then a generic model. That's a tough one to suck up, knowing a scope is a few bucks and receiving one that doesn't fit your bill 100%.
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Re: My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby yooper_man » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:44 am

Nice review! I strongly suggest a Leupold VX-1 heavy duplex shotgun/muzzleloader scope in matte finish for your Matrix 380 blackout. Leupold scopes are made in U.S.A. and you certainly get what you pay for in optics.

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Re: My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby ngamokai » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:55 pm

the more I play around with this bow the more I like it, knowing what I know now I think I would like the 355, after the amount of shots taken yesterday I am feeling it a little :shock: :lol:

As yet I do not trust it fully, I am heading out today to muck around out to 60+ yards, also I found that I like the 20" arrows on the 380, seemed to shoot very well with them, I did let one broad head go at the bag @ 20 yards yesterday, what was stopping the field points did not stop that, it went straight through and imbedded itself in a pine tree, awesome.

is it worth the grand+? Id say yes if it had a better scope, that is my only gripe really, I would also HIGHLY recommend getting Don (Boo) to sort a string out for you, with whiskers, seemed to quiet the bow down nicely and his servings are second to none in my opinion.

As far as the size and weight goes, it really is a big difference, we were shooting free standing with one hand for a laugh and I could not do that with My friends Equinox.

the holes in the underside that attached the mount for the quiver bracket were off, and I had to widen one of them to avoid threading a screw, keep this in mind when putting it together, as its alloy it will thread easily so be careful.

I am really happy to be a part of this forum, I have met great people here and with the information gained here it assisted my decision in getting this bow, really nice to have contacts over there and if any forum members are in New Zealand at any stage PM me and Id be happy to offer advice and even a few beers if you get to my Island....

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Re: My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby Normous » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:05 pm

I bet a Leupold will handle the sighting chores soon enough.
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Re: My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby IronNoggin » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:10 pm

ngamokai wrote:... after the amount of shots taken yesterday I am feeling it a little...


Wuss! :lol:

Thought you Kiwi's were s'posed to be Tough? Even this skinny little Canadian had no issues with shootin' ~ 75 shots an afternoon from the 380! Guess we simply grow 'em a tad Tougher in the North Buddy :wink: :lol:

Kidding aside, I'm liking what you have to say. Looking Forward to your results at distance!

Keep on Having Fun! I'm LOVIN' mine too!

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Re: My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby Mister B » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:04 pm

Andrew.....Re the Leupold, is this unit you speak of --the vx1--- lighted? I see where it weighs 9.9 oz can anyone tell me how much this Tact Zone weighs. Since it is sighted in I don't wish to remove it to weigh it. So far I have had no problems with the one that came on my 355. I like the single lighted dot and chevrons better than the lit cross hairs. Just wondering if Leupold makes a lighted model or if this one you mention is lighted. Cheers
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Re: My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby yooper_man » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:20 pm

Mister B,

The Leupold VX-1 doesn't have an illuminated reticle. I swapped my Excalibur shadow-zone scope for a Leupold VX-I which was the model before the VX-1. I feel the light gathering capabilities of my Leupold with heavy reticle crosshair gives me more than enough low light performance. I tried the shadow-zones illumination, but I found it a distraction plus the scope was really dark in low light conditions. The Leupold is also much lighter in weight than the shadow-zone

Leupold's VX-R has illuminated firedot reticles, they come in a much higher price that the VX-1.

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Re: My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby billygoat » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:42 pm

Well i think i would look at the hawke XB-1 SR, very nice and has chevs out to 100yds Matt. Maybe the XB-30 as well with chevs out to 60. These clearly are right up there as far as clear optics go, some would say the best for crossbows.
Matt and i were shooting these bows at my house yesterday and i can clearly state that the 380 is NOT easier to cock that is for sure. Ive owned the Equinox for two years so my groups were spot on and with a new Boo string its a formidable beast.
To prove this point i split one of Matts arrows at 20yds with a freestanding shot.
Must admit i was surprised to do this but it sure made me feel good, Haaa.
We found with the same weighted arrows that penetration was almost the same at 20yds.
After shooting the 380 i think i would hands down buy the 355 if i was to move anywhere from the equinox, I really enjoyed the compact design and lightweight feel of the new bow. I didnt enjoy cocking it or the scope...
I have gone through two Shadowzone scopes on my Equinox and must say this,
Please please please Excalibur change the quality of your scopes!!
Why a company that makes the best of the best in re-curves would put a cheap scope on their bows is beyond me??. With proven offerings from leupold, Hawke etc etc why would you???.
I guess if they sell the bare bow option we would have a choice... that would be nice!!
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Re: My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby Sloppy Does » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:18 pm

How is the serving wear at this point?
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Re: My review after 87 shots. KATIPO aka matrix 380

Postby ngamokai » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:27 pm

Sloppy Does wrote:How is the serving wear at this point?


after well over 100 shots after this afternoon ummmm what serving wear??? it is a Boo string after all :cool:
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