Prejudices Against Crossbows

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Prejudices Against Crossbows

Post by retrieverman » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:36 pm

I posted the story about my buck on another board and got a reply saying that crossbows are frowned upon by the members there, and I was more than a little surprised. Many/most of the hunting reports on that board are of deer taken inside high fences that probably cost several thousand dollars, and that appears to be perfectly acceptable (granted most are killed with compound bows).
Personally, I don't call that "hunting" or agree with the practice (no matter what weapon is used), but I also don't judge what someone else does with their time or money.

Has anyone else experienced any such prejudices against hunting with a crossbow?

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Re: Prejudices Against Crossbows

Post by Coon Gravy » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:48 pm

you can't eat antlers... and I would imagine that Chevrolet takes more "wild" game each year than any hunting implement so who cares how you get to the end game. If you let other idiots ruin your day, they win. My 2 cents.
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Re: Prejudices Against Crossbows

Post by papabear1 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:50 pm

Yes I have,,,,,, So I asked them what they was gonna do when they got old and could not draw their compounds anymore, he replied he would give it up::: SO I told him, well you can go sit in your rocking chair, while I will still be out there hunting, and enjoying the sport that I have been doing since 1960!!!!!! :D I am now 73 years old and still love to hunt. :shock: Dave :!:
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Re: Prejudices Against Crossbows

Post by papabear1 » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:55 pm

Coon Gravy wrote:you can't eat antlers... and I would imagine that Chevrolet takes more "wild" game each year than any hunting implement so who cares how you get to the end game. If you let other idiots ruin your day, they win. My 2 cents.
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Re: Prejudices Against Crossbows

Post by paulaboutform » Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:59 pm

In a word, yes. It amazes me how so many archers are anti crossbow. In some cases it's just a difference in opinion and in some cases it's just ignorance. Crossbows are not allowed in provincial or nationally sanctioned 3D shoots. Some provinces allow them for archery season, some under a disability program only and some provinces disallow them altogether. When I shot strictly compounds I was never anti crossbow, I was simply indifferent to them. BTW....I've been to ranches in Texas that are as you are imagining a canned hunt to be and my group had no interest in being there and we left. I've also hunted ranches in Texas that you could get lost on the thousands of acres, as a matter of fact one of our guys got turned around and was lost for several hours. My point is, don't be closed off with preconceived ideas. Like the ranch hunts, crossbow prejudices are just that. Jmo.

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Re: Prejudices Against Crossbows

Post by CalhounWV » Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:13 pm

When compounds first became popular, the recurve and long-bow crowd had similar prejudices against them.
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Post by paulaboutform » Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:23 pm

CalhounWV wrote:When compounds first became popular, the recurve and long-bow crowd had similar prejudices against them.
Good point, and still true today.

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Re: Prejudices Against Crossbows

Post by Eck » Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:28 pm

I've had some vertical archers allude to the fact that shooting a crossbow allows you to shoot more accurately with much less training and practice than a vertical bow. In other words, "you crossbow guys don't pay your dues". That also makes us competition afield.

I think at clubs, and other shooting events there is also an issue of necessary upgrades for targets and backstops since our crossbow bolts sail through "normal" targets. I'd love to shoot 3D with mine, but there's nothing in my area that is crossbow friendly.
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Re: Prejudices Against Crossbows

Post by Buszone » Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:56 pm

ECK,
I don't disagreed with some of that push back , We have a guy in our camp that couldn't kill a deer with his vbow if we tied the critter to the front porch, he was always missing or wounding them, now he brags about the bucks he kills and the fact that its like his rifle he just takes a couple shots each year to make sure it still sighted in out to 60yds and he is good to go.. Me, I 'm glad he is not wounding as many. I still hunt with both and enjoy them but I know there is coming a day when I wont be able to shoot my vbow well enough to still be an ethical bow hunter. I don't argue the shooting skill is much tougher with the vbow and the best example of that would be drawing back the bow at a tuff angle 20' up the tree while not being seen when the xbow handles much more like a rifle. Personally, I like it all including my flintlock.
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Re: Prejudices Against Crossbows

Post by DeathMerchant » Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:31 pm

As a resident of the only state in the union that allows zero crossbow hunting, I can share what little I know about the situation here in Oregon. There have been a few attempts to include the crossbow as a legal weapon for disabled hunters but even those have been beaten back by the apparently very influential Oregon Bow Hunters Association. From what I've been able to gather, they offer the tired and well worn arguments of crossbows being too capable, too advantageous, limited game resources, etc, etc. The fact that all citizens of any state should have a right to hunt with their weapon of choice (within reason) seems to elude them. By within reason, I mean no more capable than any other weapon currently permitted. The capability range of a crossbow falls between a conventional compound bow and a muzzle loader, both of which are permitted. The so called unfair advantages of crossbows can be mitigated by short seasons, specific restrictions on sex, antler size, etc. The archery season here in Oregon lasts for about 30 days and at one time was either sex for both deer and elk. There are now area dependent restrictions on those allowances but bow hunters still have quite the advantage over rifle and muzzle loader hunters. It would seem only fair to allow crossbow hunters a small slice of the pie.
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Re: Prejudices Against Crossbows

Post by SEW » Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:40 pm

I started bow hunting at age 10 with a self bow and continued to shoot stick bows for a long time, deep into compound bow times. I hated the elitist mentality of my fellow stick bowyers. My disgust with them caused me to go to compounds in early 80s ; yet, I continued to also use my , now, recurve. Due to a military aircraft accident causing damage to my shoulder, I used a crossbow occasionally, as early as 1983. When I was looked down upon due to this occasional usage of the crossbow, I did the same as before due to my disgust with this same type of elitism. I just went to crossbow usage, mainly to thumb my nose at them. However, I missed my recurve vbow so much, I hunted with it, Still do.
Now, what should we do? Develope a " to heck with them" attitude. Just don't care what arrogant, stupid people say or do. Ignore them. Rise above them. Don't let them be ANY factor in your life. Shake the dust off your feet and walk away.

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Re: Prejudices Against Crossbows

Post by Drew » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:49 pm

I got into traditional archery after last years bow season was over. I shot and hunted with a compound back in my 20's and wanted to get back into a vertical bow but without all of the additional equipment required. And on some of the trad forums you would probably be kicked off for just saying the word crossbow let along admit to using them. Utter snobbery, and it hurts the sport overall in my opinion. I don't belong on those forums and the one I do belong to has some tolerance (TradTalk). I've never received a negative comment there anyway.

It seems to be a not so new pervasive attitude that if "I" don't like something "You" shouldn't be allowed to do it/have it/etc. Whatever happened to I don't like this program...turn the channel. Ah, those were the days!
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Re: Prejudices Against Crossbows

Post by hockeyfodder » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:55 pm

papabear1 wrote:Yes I have,,,,,, So I asked them what they was gonna do when they got old and could not draw their compounds anymore, he replied he would give it up::: SO I told him, well you can go sit in your rocking chair, while I will still be out there hunting, and enjoying the sport that I have been doing since 1960!!!!!! :D I am now 73 years old and still love to hunt. :shock: Dave :!:
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Re: Prejudices Against Crossbows

Post by longbow joe » Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:00 pm

Yea and the compound guys got 80percent let off a rangefinder an ozonics heated body suite lazer rangefinder a space age sight and dont forget the release that is a" trigger " . Hes such a man. I love my longbow i enjoy it a lot but my excalibur is also cool ........why cant we be friends ....why can we be friends. Lol. Anyway what concerns us here is that you were on another forum now thats shunned upon here . We are the best forum now thats cheating. Lol
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Re: Prejudices Against Crossbows

Post by one shot scott » Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:26 pm

Its an indication of the type of person they are, and there are a lot of them out there. Usually they are narrow minded about other things as well as crossbows and I do try to limit myself from these types.

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