What arrow weight do you prefer?

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What total arrow weight do you prefer using in your crossbow?

350 grains
23
8%
375 grains
37
13%
400 grains
130
44%
425 grains
63
21%
450 grains
21
7%
475 grains
9
3%
500 grains
5
2%
525 + grains
8
3%
 
Total votes: 296

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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by whoay » Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:24 pm

20 inch Easton bloodline @10.5 gpi
3 inch vanes @ 10 grians ea
57 grain insert
28 grain lumenok
100 grain head

= 425 Grains

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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by ADM Hawk » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:37 pm

I just purchased micro 355 as my 1st crossbow, what would you suggest for arrow and broadhead combo? also what's with adding brass inserts for additional weight? back in my bow hunting days we tried to cut weight in every direction and shoot 125 or less broadheads, current bolt logic seems to be going in the other direction?

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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by Mntnere » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:54 pm

Shooting a micro 355, Why does the 16.5 quill spec at 9.9 gpi and suggested broad head weight at 150 but this doesn't add up to the minimum arrow of 350?

I called Excalibur today and asked about 18" bolts on the micro 355 and they said it would be fine and I could shoot either bolt 16.5 or 18 with the 100 grain. This would put the 16.5 way below the min wt ?

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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by ads1 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:27 pm

I may be wrong but I have weighed the Quill bolt and it weighs 250 gr. The 9.9 gpi is for a bare shaft. 9.9X16.5 =163.35 gr. Now add in the vanes, flat nock, front insert = 86.65 gr. 163.35 gr plus 86.65 gr = 250 gr. now add 150 gr broadhead and the total weight is 400 gr.

I am using the 16.5 inch Quill and have calculated the FOC to be approximately 21 percent. Hope this helps. My apologies if I have calculated this wrongly; I'm new at this.
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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by ads1 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:43 pm

ADM Hawk wrote:I just purchased micro 355 as my 1st crossbow, what would you suggest for arrow and broadhead combo? also what's with adding brass inserts for additional weight? back in my bow hunting days we tried to cut weight in every direction and shoot 125 or less broadheads, current bolt logic seems to be going in the other direction?
You need to add the brass insert to increase FOC. The Quill bolt has a very light front insert but a heavy broad head. if you use a 100 or 125 gn broad head on a Quill bolt your accuracy may suffer at distances greater than 20 yards.

If you build some custom bolts ( Jerry at South Shore Archery is building mine) and use B.E. Zombie Slayer .001 arrows, use 110 gn brass insert, flat nock, 2 in Blazer vanes you should have approx. 409 gr with 100 gr broad head and 434 gr with 125 gr broad head.

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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by ADM Hawk » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:23 am

ads1 wrote:
ADM Hawk wrote:I just purchased micro 355 as my 1st crossbow, what would you suggest for arrow and broadhead combo? also what's with adding brass inserts for additional weight? back in my bow hunting days we tried to cut weight in every direction and shoot 125 or less broadheads, current bolt logic seems to be going in the other direction?
You need to add the brass insert to increase FOC. The Quill bolt has a very light front insert but a heavy broad head. if you use a 100 or 125 gn broad head on a Quill bolt your accuracy may suffer at distances greater than 20 yards.

If you build some custom bolts ( Jerry at South Shore Archery is building mine) and use B.E. Zombie Slayer .001 arrows, use 110 gn brass insert, flat nock, 2 in Blazer vanes you should have approx. 409 gr with 100 gr broad head and 434 gr with 125 gr broad head.

Thanks for the info

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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by Greg Dewar » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:52 pm

Hello I'm new at crossbow I have a matrix 380 I'm shooting a fire-blot 20'' with a 125gr ip and a 125gr broad-head my arrows are between 400 and 403gr is thisa good arrow weight

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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by Richieg150 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:24 pm

I have a Axiom, and with Excalibur Firebolt 20" arrows, 125 field tip, and Luminoks, my arrows weigh 433 grains. Chronoed them at 295 fps. They fly straight and true and have killed, so far, everything I have shot at. :D
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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by Joshuaj34 » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:23 am

I prefer a 375 grain arrow. I use the Diablo bolts with a 175 grain swhacker broadhead and I've had nothing but good luck with the combination.

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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by Hueyh1 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:44 am

Newbie to crossbow. Actually the last time I touched a bowl was 40 years ago with a falcon recurve.
Will be retiring soon. Just purchase the Matrix 380. 250 grain Diablo bolt. Boltcutter 150gr SS 3 blades. 12 pk 150 gr points. I know it'll be fun
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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by SEW » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:30 am

Drew wrote:After hunting South Africa this year I plan on sticking with the same arrow for Michigan deer.

18" Zombie
Lumenok
92gr brass insert
3.5" wrap
Blazer vanes
150gr or 175gr VPA 3 blade broadhead

Total build up weight...462gr (150gr VPA), 486gr (175gr VPA) with 20.4% and 21.8% FOC respectively.

These combos out of my M355 made two holes in three Impala, warthog, zebra, and Kudu. If it's not broke don't fix it. I've not chrono'd these out of my 355 but I'm guessing based on passed experience that they are somewhere between 310-325fps. I'd rather go heavy and have less noise/shock and stress on the bow than go light.

Not a fan of bullpup designs as the trigger linkage is always an issue. I really wish Excal would make a bow that has as good of balance as the 355, the power stroke of the M400-405, and the ability to throw a 475-500gr arrow at 380fps. Now that would be a magnum! And as flat shooting as all of those itty bitty 375gr arrows. :lol:
I've gone down this same direction lately. Some differences. 92g insert, 20" STs, Blazers, 170g (FOC) or Xbow Tricks(using 175g since I have them , but would choose 150 version for this insert wt). Arrow wt is 485-491g. actually need to test with 100 & 125g broadheads but sure like the feel of this extra wt. Use this with BD400.
M405 - 18" STs, Blazers, 50g insert, same broadheads (420g). M380 - 18" Zombies, 26g insert, Blazers, same broadheads(390-395g).
I will likely limit my usage of FOCs to heavier arrow setups and higher energy. I'm slowly migrating towards med wt arrows 425g- 490ishg. 20" arrows seem to have flatter trajectories than 18".
My guess for an ideal arrow (for deer) for a 400 or 405, 20" Tactical Tapp, Blazers or SK300, flat plastic nock, 92 or 110g insert and one of the G5 broadheads or 50g insert with 150g Xbow Trick or VPA, or 26g insert with FOC or 175g Xbow Trick or VPA. Just some thoughts.
For shorter rail length than 400,405, the above with 18-19".

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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by Drew » Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:01 pm

>>SEW, don't forget that there is an 80gr brass insert for the ZS's as well. I thought about using that insert when I was planning on using the 175gr VPA. As it was, I decided to just go with the 92gr and if I happen to use the 175gr VPA I would just have a higher FOC. I never shoot at game beyond 40yds anyway, nor had too. Heck my longest shot to date is 35yds and the average is 24yds.
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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by L.C.B.H » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:54 pm

435-475 gr is what i prefer.
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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by Goose52 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:13 am

i am satisfied with quills & boltcutters i am shooting now, plus they are paid for. i would like to add lumenoks as it took me an hour with a metal detector to find my bolt after a pass through. so going by the info provided by ads, adding them would bring my quills up to 428gr. but what about FOC? would i need to make any other alterations? anybody here shooting that combination? what kind of fps would i be getting out of a 335? thanks in advance for any answers!
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Re: What arrow weight do you prefer?

Post by ads1 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:56 pm

Goose52 wrote:Wow, how did i miss this thread? glad i found it cuz i've been thinking about changing my arrows. however, it seems whenever i deviate from the KISS principle i run into problems. i am satisfied with quills & boltcutters, plus they are paid for. i would like to add lumenocs as it took me an hour with a metal detector to find my bolt after a pass through. so going by the info provided by ads, adding them would bring my quills up to 428gr. but what about FOC? would i need to make any other alterations? anybody here shooting that combination? what kind of fps would i be getting out of a 335? thanks in advance for any answers!
I would just try shooting them and see if they group ok.

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