Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

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Re: Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

Post by xcaliber » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:15 pm

I'm hooked hard on the Matrix Models I have because they fill my needs in terms of power, size, and reliability. I think Excalibur has been busy with R&D on new products, but you are right, the wheeled models are being very aggressive the last few years. I still won't even consider one because of Excalibur's simplicity factor though.
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Re: Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

Post by GRUNDY » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:29 pm

Wheels are More likely to give you trouble.
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Re: Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

Post by Boo » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:05 pm

At $1,500.00 bare bow and only 350 ft/sec It is not giving Excalibur a run. While you can do anything in the field with a Mission, everything is far, far easier to do with an Exclubur. Excalibur is a far more ergonomic bow than a Mission and it's got a stirrup! My Mission feels like I'm shooting a broom and all of my Excaliburs feel like a 20 gauge bird gun. Mission is a cool bow in many respects but it doesn't come close to an Excalibur in my books.
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Re: Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

Post by vaXbow » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:36 pm

Nobody mentioned it yet, but the Mission’s ability to decock is lights out. One button without pushing a lever and pulling a trigger. That’s pretty slick. Excal has spoiled me on decocking without shooting a discharge arrow.
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Re: Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

Post by mchurch » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:10 pm

My bulldog 400 isn't going anywhere. I'll be looking for a micro supressor at some point
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Post by Carnivorous » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:40 pm

It's best that I don't shoulder one. Or else out comes the wallet... lol
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Re: Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

Post by Smong2000 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:15 am

I am selling my Micro 355 to help fund one. Really love a lot about the Excalibur but after breaking a limb in a month and about 350 shots can't find the confidence to hunt with it or keep with it. I am on the 4th season with my MXB400 and it has been rock solid, can be decocked just like my Excal (it's easier to let down), string and cable change is a 10 min job vs 2 min in the field, never changed timing or had string creep after 1 week, is smaller and weighs within an oz of the Micro and shoots 50 fps faster. I don't know of any Missions breaking limbs or anything else except for the Sniper model and that is a superlight bow that looks fragile. So the Mission SUB-1 looks awfully good to me (except for the price) and there will surely be used bows on the market within a few months. I am betting that they release an even faster version before spring that will blow the market open.
I wish the Excalibur models that I like didn't have limb problems but it's a fact of life that I just can't live with. I know it's a lowish percentage occurrence but it's there and bit me once so sadly I am giving up on the bow that I wanted for years and really love.

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Re: Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

Post by bigbowman » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:16 am

The prices on these new bows regardless of a new feature or two has gotten way out of hand for pricing! They are definately pricing the average hunter out of what was once our right and heritage! No bow and I mean NO bow is worth the prices that these companies are charging these days! It still boils down to hunting, those high priced rich man bows will do the same thing that a way cheaper priced bow will do if you are a true hunter! That bow has nothing to offer me that any other bow doesn't. All that I want is a bow that can humanely harvest my game! But again that's just MHO! :D
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Re: Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

Post by robertyb » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:46 am

Personally I do not see it coming after Excalibur at all. Most folks either like recurve crossbows or they like compound crossbows. I am a recurve man since a terrible limb experience with a Parker compound. I keep seeing the new compounds popping up and I think I might want to try one again but thus far after a few months problems start kicking up with the new models and makes me even happier with my recurves.
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Re: Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

Post by grouse » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:17 am

After reading this post, I took a look at the Mission Sub 1 on line. What a hideous looking contraption! It may shoot great, but I can't imagine carrying such a complicated looking device to my deer stand. All of its complexity seems unnecessary and expensive. I have killed deer every year with Excals just as they come out of the box, same trigger, same scope. Everyone has different tastes, but the original equipment seems just fine to me. Comparing the price of an Excal with after market accessories to a stock Mission is not logical. The same people who aren't satisfied with original equipment on an Excal would probably change some of the components of a Mission, adding to its cost.
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Re: Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

Post by Boo » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:52 am

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Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:27 pm
By the time you put a trigger tech trigger and a Hawke scope on a top of the line Excal your talking practically the same money as the Mission. The Mission is 350fps with a 400gr arrow only the Matrx 380 and BD 400 are faster in Excals current line up. If the Mission is slow all the Excals are slow also. The new Mission is smaller than the Micros (10.7 cocked) and as fast as the bigger Matrix's. I haven't had a chance to shoot one yet but I want too as soon as I can.
I am sorry but I respectfully disagree. If you add a TT trigger and another scope, you end up with an extra scope, an extra trigger unit, arrows and a quiver.
I'll say it again, while you can change limbs, strings and cables, it isn't nearly as easy as an Excalibur. You just can't smack on strings and cables. You have to adjust cables until the cams are synched and adjust the string until you get the correct ATA. Then you have to shoot it and likely readjust. So many would have a tough time doing that with or without a press. I don't think there's a need for talking about changing lims or cam pins in the event of a poorly indexed arrow at this point.
As far as limbs go, I've read about splintered limbs already.
While Mission may have it's own niche, no way is Mission biting at the heels of Excalibur. Aside from the technical differences, Mission is a bow that looks and feels ugly. :mrgreen:
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Re: Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

Post by xcaliber » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:49 am

It's not comparing apples to apples for sure. Boo is right about the time and effort required to truly tune a bow after routine maintenance like string and cables. I'll stick with easy peasy.
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Re: Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

Post by vixenmaster » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:14 pm

I say buy n shoot what ever Brand n model crossbow you like n i hope they do well by you n for you. I own Recurve n Compound style Crossbows, they both have had issues here n there
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Re: Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

Post by venison » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:15 pm

Screw Dat those wheelie bows I would buy 3 350 se and have 2 back ups DID i tell you i love my 350 se :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Is the Mission Sub 1 giving Excal a run for its money?

Post by Riflemanz » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:08 pm

$1500.00 kills it right out of the box!
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