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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by NEPAbowhunter » Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:25 pm

Stop using the lube and very lightly wax your string serving. That bow is holding a lot of poundage when it is cocked.
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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by paulaboutform » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:01 pm

I find it easier (and cheaper than returning for warranty) to polish the living daylights out of the latches, as described in the Boocustomstringscom website and stop putting lube on the rail. I learned the hard way it leads to premature separation.

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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by foofoo » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:03 pm

at that price $1600 id get in touch with warranty and send it back. no way id wanna polish or expect to polish anything. ive purchased many danny miller strings and shot them including on all my heavy hitters with no issues so i doubt the string is a lemon as you also tried another one and did the same.im sure its a minor fix but best to let warranty take care of it.i bet they send you a return label.if youve never polished claws before youll ended up having to buy the proper grit paper and if not careful get that metal dust in everything.i know many have done it and suggest it but to me youd have to get the claw out of the trigger box and tumble it or polish by hand outside of the trigger box to be sure its done right.

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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by robertyb » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:33 pm

foofoo wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:03 pm
at that price $1600 id get in touch with warranty and send it back. no way id wanna polish or expect to polish anything. ive purchased many danny miller strings and shot them including on all my heavy hitters with no issues so i doubt the string is a lemon as you also tried another one and did the same.im sure its a minor fix but best to let warranty take care of it.i bet they send you a return label.if youve never polished claws before youll ended up having to buy the proper grit paper and if not careful get that metal dust in everything.i know many have done it and suggest it but to me youd have to get the claw out of the trigger box and tumble it or polish by hand outside of the trigger box to be sure its done right.
They should be polished before being sold. I have never understood why Excal lets rough latches make it out of quality control unless they just don't bother checking for quality.
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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by Onetimeonly x--> » Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:17 am

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robertyb wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:33 pm
foofoo wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:03 pm
at that price $1600 id get in touch with warranty and send it back. no way id wanna polish or expect to polish anything. ive purchased many danny miller strings and shot them including on all my heavy hitters with no issues so i doubt the string is a lemon as you also tried another one and did the same.im sure its a minor fix but best to let warranty take care of it.i bet they send you a return label.if youve never polished claws before youll ended up having to buy the proper grit paper and if not careful get that metal dust in everything.i know many have done it and suggest it but to me youd have to get the claw out of the trigger box and tumble it or polish by hand outside of the trigger box to be sure its done right.
They should be polished before being sold. I have never understood why Excal lets rough latches make it out of quality control unless they just don't bother checking for quality.
I agree, the latches are no pun intended. A "make or break" part of the bow. Hopefully flawless out of the box...
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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by hunter with MS » Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:36 am

Parts are probably mass produced and maybe not made in house so not every single part in inspected by hand as they should be . With A small percentage getting through flawed . The only way they are going to know is through the warranty and things being returned .

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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by Arrowflinger » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:48 am

hunter with MS wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:36 am
Parts are probably mass produced and maybe not made in house so not every single part in inspected by hand as they should be . With A small percentage getting through flawed . The only way they are going to know is through the warranty and things being returned .



Still not a plausible excuse . My latches were also rough from the git go. From all the comments about it since I've followed Excalibur , hate to say it but its not a small percentage but more the norm. Way the world works nowadays .
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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by hunter with MS » Sat Feb 10, 2018 7:54 am

What I am trying to get at is how many units of one part are being made 10 thousand , 100 thousand or more so take that number and say 100 have some sort of flaw the percentage is very small being Excalibur the produced number is not that high so the affected number will be lower . That is going to happen with no matter what it is again if the company don't know about it it can not be fixed. Here is an Example I purchased several boxes of Brenneke Shotgun slugs and had one loaded backwards with the slug toward the primer so you and I know that these are produced by the many thousands and the box I got had one flawed now I wonder how many others got through as they are inspected by a computer / machine it happens

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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by Bcxbow » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:43 am

This is also a totally new, redesigned trigger that may understandably have a few bugs to work out.
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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by xcaliber » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:55 am

Sorry, the latch issue isn't new. This has been happening for as long as I have been an owner, and on this forum. Yes it is a small percentage of shipped units, but in my mind an expensive issue. The top management should encourage, and expect a change that would nip this for ever. In the meantime I suggest NO wax be applied to the serving, you're not extending the life of the string in any way by waxing!
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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by janesy » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:08 am

I think one point that we often forget is that we, as members of this forum, are in the huge minority. We shoot our bow far far more than the average crossbow owner. This is a real problem for us, thats true. And we demand perfection.

But what we often forget, is that 90%+ of crossbow owners will never outshot their string. They will never replace a serving. They will never even know that the latches can wear out a serving. Because if they pull the trigger 3 times a year they are really "using" their bows.
Most consumers sight it in initially(which is pretty darn easy with an excal). Then they shoot one arrow per year practice, and in Ontario one arrow per season :roll: .

So Xcaliber, you're 100% correct, and I too wish they were polished. But if 100 bad latches make it through the system of 100k ordered. I bet only 5 have a noticeable effect, and even less get returned.
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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by xcaliber » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:19 am

It's not a slam in any way, it's a challenge. I do believe the percentage of repairs in total was under 2% which is very good on any level. I have been convinced for a long time now that these are by far the best Crossbows made.
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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by Bcxbow » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:21 am

I agree with excalibur because I have had my own frustrations with string eating latches, even on the trigger tech I recently installed in my bulldog. It’s not good for any of us to have to polish the latches on new triggers but I guess I was just hoping for better reports with the new trigger in the assassin.

Hopefully the reports will not all trend in the same direction.
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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by robertyb » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:28 am

Bcxbow wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:43 am
This is also a totally new, redesigned trigger that may understandably have a few bugs to work out.
Latches are latches.
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Re: Assassin String advice

Post by Onetimeonly x--> » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:47 am

janesy wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:08 am
I think one point that we often forget is that we, as members of this forum, are in the huge minority. We shoot our bow far far more than the average crossbow owner. This is a real problem for us, thats true. And we demand perfection.

But what we often forget, is that 90%+ of crossbow owners will never outshot their string. They will never replace a serving. They will never even know that the latches can wear out a serving. Because if they pull the trigger 3 times a year they are really "using" their bows.
Most consumers sight it in initially(which is pretty darn easy with an excal). Then they shoot one arrow per year practice, and in Ontario one arrow per season :roll: .

So Xcaliber, you're 100% correct, and I too wish they were polished. But if 100 bad latches make it through the system of 100k ordered. I bet only 5 have a noticeable effect, and even less get returned.
jansey, good read. I'm close to the Xbow owner you have described. Although most of my knowledge has come from forum members such as yourself reading here. Best advice I could give is to own two or more strings and carry an extra into the field or have access to a backup if needed...
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