400TD problem
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400TD problem
Problem = Stopping one.
This is a Delta Mckenzie Crossbow Speedbag (SKU #70630) hit with a 400TD at 20 yards. Its rated for arrows up to 400fps.
Here's a 50 yard shot at a Glen Del buck. If you shoot at shorter distances, you'll hide the fletching.
If raw accurate power is what you seek, the 400TD has it in spades. Just be prepared to invest in quality backstops and arrow pullers.
This is a Delta Mckenzie Crossbow Speedbag (SKU #70630) hit with a 400TD at 20 yards. Its rated for arrows up to 400fps.
Here's a 50 yard shot at a Glen Del buck. If you shoot at shorter distances, you'll hide the fletching.
If raw accurate power is what you seek, the 400TD has it in spades. Just be prepared to invest in quality backstops and arrow pullers.
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Re: 400TD problem
I use old tires for a back stop and a Danny Miller arrow puller
Re: 400TD problem
Yes, penetration is a problem. I only shoot to 20 if I am sighting in a scope. Most of the shooting is from 40 to 60 yards. Following Danny Miller's advice, I bought a Morell Double Duty field point target and it works very well at 20 yards.
Some people just like stepping on rakes
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Re: 400TD problem
Blob Targets if you can get one.,
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Stand by the roads and look, and ask for the ancient paths; where the good way is,
and walk in it and find rest for your souls. - Jer 6:16
Micro 335 & 355
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Re: 400TD problem
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Problem solved. I use a scrap 3 gallon bucket and fill with layered discarded clothing using mainly JEANS and Scrap CANVAS in the top half.
Then cut the center of the lid off and reposition with some heavy plastic material between the lid and jeans.
(remove buttons and zippers).
Next, bend a scrap steel or aluminum to fabricate a handle and stand using two nuts and bolts to attach.
Using field points I get 5" - 6" penetration with a 450 gr arrow going 450 FPS.. Easy peasy two finger arrow removal .
Next to zero cost and lasts a long long time if stored out of the elements.
Aim small miss small
This target is highly portable, doesn't take up much space and lightweight.
Problem solved. I use a scrap 3 gallon bucket and fill with layered discarded clothing using mainly JEANS and Scrap CANVAS in the top half.
Then cut the center of the lid off and reposition with some heavy plastic material between the lid and jeans.
(remove buttons and zippers).
Next, bend a scrap steel or aluminum to fabricate a handle and stand using two nuts and bolts to attach.
Using field points I get 5" - 6" penetration with a 450 gr arrow going 450 FPS.. Easy peasy two finger arrow removal .
Next to zero cost and lasts a long long time if stored out of the elements.
Aim small miss small
This target is highly portable, doesn't take up much space and lightweight.
EXCALFFLICTION 1991 ->>----------> 2024
Matrix 355
Huskemaw and Leupold crossbow optics.
Boo Strings
SWAT BH's and TOTA heads.
Teach Your Family How To Hunt So You Don't Have To Hunt For Your Family
Matrix 355
Huskemaw and Leupold crossbow optics.
Boo Strings
SWAT BH's and TOTA heads.
Teach Your Family How To Hunt So You Don't Have To Hunt For Your Family
Re: 400TD problem
For the backyard I use a larger version strung up on a home made stand from discarded wood fencing held with rope for a bit of "give" or energy absorption.
Again, rags, jeans and scrap canvas layered in a heavy duty coffee bean sack. I found a box of duty coffee bean sacks at my local Surplus store
5 bags for $2.99 .
The arrow stuck in target was 400 gr at 500 fps.
Note: steel background for safety.
A roof keeps rain and UV off this target for longevity. Protecting any outdoor target is very important.
Again, rags, jeans and scrap canvas layered in a heavy duty coffee bean sack. I found a box of duty coffee bean sacks at my local Surplus store
5 bags for $2.99 .
The arrow stuck in target was 400 gr at 500 fps.
Note: steel background for safety.
A roof keeps rain and UV off this target for longevity. Protecting any outdoor target is very important.
EXCALFFLICTION 1991 ->>----------> 2024
Matrix 355
Huskemaw and Leupold crossbow optics.
Boo Strings
SWAT BH's and TOTA heads.
Teach Your Family How To Hunt So You Don't Have To Hunt For Your Family
Matrix 355
Huskemaw and Leupold crossbow optics.
Boo Strings
SWAT BH's and TOTA heads.
Teach Your Family How To Hunt So You Don't Have To Hunt For Your Family
Re: 400TD problem
My 400 has the same problem
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Re: 400TD problem
May I have your attention please...Normous wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:20 pmFor the backyard I use a larger version strung up on a home made stand from discarded wood fencing held with rope for a bit of "give" or energy absorption.
Again, rags, jeans and scrap canvas layered in a heavy duty coffee bean sack. I found a box of duty coffee bean sacks at my local Surplus store
5 bags for $2.99 .
The arrow stuck in target was 400 gr at 500 fps.
Note: steel background for safety.
A roof keeps rain and UV off this target for longevity. Protecting any outdoor target is very important.
This folks is the Canadian version of a Texas Redneck!!
And I mean that in the most sincere manner Little Brother!!
Norm you ARE resourceful!!
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Re: 400TD problem
Thanks Tex, I try to utilize all my recourses when possible with unused items laying around looking lonely.
Mostly every household has surplus clothing cluttering up some household space that could turn into a zero cost stop everything field tip target.
To improvise I would cut 2 gallons off a 5 gallon pail and layer inside with old clothing on hand. When full I would use duct tape to criss cross pattern to keep everything tight inside. Then tape once or twice around the outside to hold all together and look good doing it.
If the duct tape top shooting layer wore out just replace with more duct tape and keep shooting.
Never one did an arrow ever go through and the best part was 2 finger arrow removal.
Mostly every household has surplus clothing cluttering up some household space that could turn into a zero cost stop everything field tip target.
To improvise I would cut 2 gallons off a 5 gallon pail and layer inside with old clothing on hand. When full I would use duct tape to criss cross pattern to keep everything tight inside. Then tape once or twice around the outside to hold all together and look good doing it.
If the duct tape top shooting layer wore out just replace with more duct tape and keep shooting.
Never one did an arrow ever go through and the best part was 2 finger arrow removal.
EXCALFFLICTION 1991 ->>----------> 2024
Matrix 355
Huskemaw and Leupold crossbow optics.
Boo Strings
SWAT BH's and TOTA heads.
Teach Your Family How To Hunt So You Don't Have To Hunt For Your Family
Matrix 355
Huskemaw and Leupold crossbow optics.
Boo Strings
SWAT BH's and TOTA heads.
Teach Your Family How To Hunt So You Don't Have To Hunt For Your Family
Re: 400TD problem
I get the feeling Mrs. Norm don't just find him handsome...she also finds him handy!AJ01 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:07 pmMay I have your attention please...Normous wrote: ↑Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:20 pmFor the backyard I use a larger version strung up on a home made stand from discarded wood fencing held with rope for a bit of "give" or energy absorption.
Again, rags, jeans and scrap canvas layered in a heavy duty coffee bean sack. I found a box of duty coffee bean sacks at my local Surplus store
5 bags for $2.99 .
The arrow stuck in target was 400 gr at 500 fps.
Note: steel background for safety.
A roof keeps rain and UV off this target for longevity. Protecting any outdoor target is very important.
This folks is the Canadian version of a Texas Redneck!!
And I mean that in the most sincere manner Little Brother!!
Norm you ARE resourceful!!
I'm going to have to get to building one of these targets. My family outgrows clothes so fast it ain't even funny. It would also be a good use for my Pre-pandemic pants which are 2 sizes to small now!
Take care everyone
Hatchet
Re: 400TD problem
Alternatively , one can buy Rag Bag covers from Third Hand Archery owned by Jim Litmir a man that I have met several times in the Archery Industry.
https://www.thirdhandarchery.com/product.asp?PRODID=9
In addition to old clothing , ( I think jeans are best ) look for canvas awning scraps with makes excellent backstop material when layered.
In my neighborhood I was the first guy to ask if I could rip down an old canvas awning soon to be replaced. Saved the older fellow some time and a trip to the local waste station and his $10.00 fee.
Don't laugh but our old socks and undies end up in in my targets, nothing goes to waste! See photo. Those are " hers " I might add, She wears the purdy ones
https://www.thirdhandarchery.com/product.asp?PRODID=9
In addition to old clothing , ( I think jeans are best ) look for canvas awning scraps with makes excellent backstop material when layered.
In my neighborhood I was the first guy to ask if I could rip down an old canvas awning soon to be replaced. Saved the older fellow some time and a trip to the local waste station and his $10.00 fee.
Don't laugh but our old socks and undies end up in in my targets, nothing goes to waste! See photo. Those are " hers " I might add, She wears the purdy ones
EXCALFFLICTION 1991 ->>----------> 2024
Matrix 355
Huskemaw and Leupold crossbow optics.
Boo Strings
SWAT BH's and TOTA heads.
Teach Your Family How To Hunt So You Don't Have To Hunt For Your Family
Matrix 355
Huskemaw and Leupold crossbow optics.
Boo Strings
SWAT BH's and TOTA heads.
Teach Your Family How To Hunt So You Don't Have To Hunt For Your Family
Re: 400TD problem
I just heard Patti Gasp from over 450 Km awayNormous wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:24 amAlternatively , one can buy Rag Bag covers from Third Hand Archery owned by Jim Litmir a man that I have met several times in the Archery Industry.
https://www.thirdhandarchery.com/product.asp?PRODID=9
In addition to old clothing , ( I think jeans are best ) look for canvas awning scraps with makes excellent backstop material when layered.
In my neighborhood I was the first guy to ask if I could rip down an old canvas awning soon to be replaced. Saved the older fellow some time and a trip to the local waste station and his $10.00 fee.
Don't laugh but our old socks and undies end up in in my targets, nothing goes to waste! See photo. Those are " hers " I might add, She wears the purdy ones
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Re: 400TD problem
janesy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:09 amI just heard Patti Gasp from over 450 Km awayNormous wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:24 amAlternatively , one can buy Rag Bag covers from Third Hand Archery owned by Jim Litmir a man that I have met several times in the Archery Industry.
https://www.thirdhandarchery.com/product.asp?PRODID=9
In addition to old clothing , ( I think jeans are best ) look for canvas awning scraps with makes excellent backstop material when layered.
In my neighborhood I was the first guy to ask if I could rip down an old canvas awning soon to be replaced. Saved the older fellow some time and a trip to the local waste station and his $10.00 fee.
Don't laugh but our old socks and undies end up in in my targets, nothing goes to waste! See photo. Those are " hers " I might add, She wears the purdy ones