Carbon Blowup

[tkstae]

I need your guys help. I shot a big 6 pt. last fall, and had the carbon shaft splinter. He didn't go far and was easy to find, but I lost alot of meat because of the splinters everywhere. That along with my trouble with keeping the inserts from pulling out all the time has got me thinking about aluminum shafts. Any thoughts or advice on the best size and brand would be a great help. I shoot a 175 lb. Exocet with gold tips, and 100 gr. slick tricks. Thanks again. Tom

[Tom]

What size to recomend would depend on what you want to hunt.

For deer or simular sized animals the 2216 is a great arrow. It is also the arrow size that Excal use to put in their packages (I believe it is carbons now). For moose you might want to go to the 2219 arrow for more weight to create more KE. But the 2216 will work for moose as well.

Hope this helps.

[jay73]

Howdy Tom, we share the same thoughts. I too am pondering on going back to aluminum shafts. I own a Exocet 165 upgraded with mag tips and dissipator pads.

Originally I had Easton XX75 2117 bolts and switched to carbons(Gold tips) a couple of years ago. I have had inserts pull out as well when taking bolts out of targets. I also had one split in a doe last year when she rolled on it. Didn't notice any carbon shards in the meat thank god.

I am planning to try out the 4 blade muzzys this year on my bolts, whatever kind I decide on.

I am interseted in any input as well.

Jay

[wabi]

I switched back to aluminums this summer. I made up a bunch using 2215's, but 2216's are very similar - just a few grains (somewhere around 20) heavier. 2213's are a lot easier to bend, but get a little more velocity. 2219's are quite a bit heavier and add KE, but are a little slower.
With the Exocet, I'd probably pick 2216's!

[tkstae]

Thanks for the help and advice. Tom

[Farmer]

If you do not want to use aluminum a 2216 is hard to beat. Have taken amny deer with them.

[Sierra]

I too am not to happy with the GT LII. I got a dozen with my new Exocet. I have had problems with the inserts coming loose. Once shot at a target with a montec and the bolt stopped in the target but the insert and broadhead kept on going. Never found the insert or broadhead.

I also weighed each bolt and the carbons I received were not as consistance in weight as the aluminums.

The 2219 aluminums weighed in about 60 to 70 grains heavier than the carbons.

[mejt]

I have the same issue with the inserts coming out! I loose the on a consant bases even with new arrows. Does anyone have any advise or tips in keeping them in?

Mike

[jay73]

Thanks for the info lads.

I'm gong with aluminums this year. I've got to get all new bolts anyways, so I guess it's aluminum.

Now to pick a 100 or 125 gr. heads. Any suggestions, and why?

Jay

[Sierra]

Jay, I have had good luck with the G5 Montec. The Montec flies like a field point from my Exocet 200. I made the switch from mechanicals to fixed broadheads for hunting this year because of the fear of the mechanicals opening upon firing. The Montec is also easy to sharpen.

I have also shot the Muzzy Phantom and like the idea of being able to remove the bleeder blade and ligthening the broadhead by 20 grains. Either way, four or two cutting edges, the Phantom gives good results and is also easy to sharpen.

I prefer the G5 Montec in 85 or 100 grain.

[GREY OWL]

On my Plains Buffalo Hunt this past winter, I also used carbons in my Exomag. Not only my 100 grain Slick Trick blew apart, but also my 20" Lazer II carbon arrow. We found several pieces of the broadhead between the hide and carcass on the other side. I should of went a little heavier with a 125 grain Slick Trick, I would of got likely a complete pass through with a heavier set-up. With a heavier combination the arrow and broadhead would maybe of stayed together better. The buffalo was 3 years old, weighing about 1100 lbs. on the hoof.

Grey Owl

[gad]

I need your guys help. I shot a big 6 pt. last fall, and had the carbon shaft splinter. He didn't go far and was easy to find, but I lost alot of meat because of the splinters everywhere. That along with my trouble with keeping the inserts from pulling out all the time has got me thinking about aluminum shafts. Any thoughts or advice on the best size and brand would be a great help. I shoot a 175 lb. Exocet with gold tips, and 100 gr. slick tricks. Thanks again. Tom

The only carbons I have splintered have hitted the wall beyond the target.

I like to glue the inserts on the carbons using epoxy glue. It really strenghts the shaft, helping avoid those splinters. Really helps.

Also, I found the beman thunderbolts little more tought than the goldtip series 22 carbon.

I just had three aluminum shafts, 2219. I don't like aluminuns, it bents easily.

[jw]

Maybe try scratching the inside of the shaft with sandpaper before the insert is put in? Also make sure the shaft is hot too when putting it in.

[Boo]

Hi guys. I use a 3m abrasive pad on the inserts, a bore brush on the shaft interior and 90% or greater alcohol on the glue surfaces. The adhesive that has never let me down is metalized epoxy but the easton HIT epoxy works really well. I do not touch the glue surfaces after cleaning with the alcohol. Last month I blew a shot and the Easton Axis arrow hit a concrete wall bounced off and kicked off the nock. The arrow is completely undamaged and the insert is still not loose today.
I still have 2117's and like the speed they give me.