Sharpening the Montec G5- Help Please!

mkgeorgetown · Post by **mkgeorgetown** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:24 pm

Hi all,
I have some Montec G5's and like the way they shoot, but am having a tough time getting them sharp. I am usually a decent knife sharpener but not doing well here!! I have the Montec diamond stone and broadhead is better than when I started, however doesn't seem to be close to sharp and I have worked on this thing forever. Noticed the bevels the very large, look more like an ax than a broadhead blade. Is this by design? Would hold up better passing thru bone etc. Please advise, I love the way they shoot but if I can't get them any sharper I will most likely try Slick Tricks! Thanks.

Boo · Post by **Boo** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:58 pm

Have you gone to their web site? The have instructions there. I use their diamond hone on similar broad heads with no problems at all. Hair shaving sharp! http://www.g5outdoors.com/#sec_video Don't push hard. I use leather paddle and a green lapping compound afterwards.

mkgeorgetown · Post by **mkgeorgetown** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:05 pm

Yes, I visited the website and am doing it same way, I have tried going light still just mediocre. Not sure what the deal is thanks for the tips.

raydaughety · Post by **raydaughety** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:46 pm

I had the same problem. If you do a search on "sharpening" you'll see where the forum members tried to help me out but no luck. I wound up getting slick tricks.

wabi · Post by **wabi** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:31 pm

The bevel will be more like an axe than a knife, so it's a lot harder to get them shaving sharp. The edge will be much more durable, though. Your're correct in guessing they would hold up better passing through bone. I usually just stone them enough to get the edge shaped & level. You won't get them much sharper on the diamond stone than they are at that point. If you want more of a "shaving sharp" edge try honing them on leather (with polish like bstout suggested helps). I use a "crock stick" for my final edge, but it's not as sharp as a leather strop will get them.

mkgeorgetown · Post by **mkgeorgetown** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:04 pm

Thanks Wabi, this makes me feel better, they would still pass the cutting the rubber band test, but I wanted to try and do better.I would definitely like to try Bstouts and your suggestion of the leather and metal polish. Where can you get this type of polish? Will any piece of leather work, like an old belt? What is the technique for stropping? Thanks again! I really love the way these fly and want to continue using them! I am also not afraid to keep trying and learning so keep the info coming!! Thanks again.

Horizontal Hunter · Post by **Horizontal Hunter** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:52 pm

I bought a leather strop and some polish from Smokey Mountian Woodcarvers.

The strop was $4.00 :

http://woodcarvers.com/Strops1.htm

The stropping I use is called Yelowstone and is $6.25

http://woodcarvers.com/Strops1.htm

Here is a great video that shows how to use the strop and stropping compound on the Slick Trick broadheads. It will help give you a general idea of the process. It is now the only process I use for my broadheads and my knives. It is amazing how sharp you can make them.

http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=363806

Bob

wabi · Post by **wabi** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:16 pm

Thanks HH!!
Great link to view the process of stropping the blades.

mkgeorgetown · Post by **mkgeorgetown** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:05 pm

WOW!! Thank you all so much, I have got to get some supplies and give this a try. I already have the Gatco setup and have my hunting knives and spam knives shaving sharp. This Montec is makin' me nuts so once again thanks. The links are of great help.

mkgeorgetown · Post by **mkgeorgetown** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:22 pm

I do have one question and this may be silly. When sharpening say a Montec or any fixed type broadhead, you take it side to side on the stone. When stropping a fixed broadhead, do you do it the same (side to side) or do you have the point going away from you and then pull it back towards you(staying in one direction), if that makes sense. I have my leather, just need to go get the compound.... thanks again!

wabi · Post by **wabi** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:56 pm

Sharpening - side to side is good on a 3-blade, or a point first stroke toward the back of the head will work for sharpening. (like you are trying to cut a slice off the stone)
For stropping the back of the head toward the point is the proper direction. (just backwards from the sharpening stroke)

mkgeorgetown · Post by **mkgeorgetown** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:17 pm

Thanks Wabi, I appreciate the support.

Mark

mkgeorgetown · Post by **mkgeorgetown** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:27 pm

One more (and probably not the last) question, which side of the leather to use, the smooth side or the rough slightly furry side.

Pydpiper · Post by **Pydpiper** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:32 am

Here, try this..

http://www.handamerican.com/Ihone.html

mkgeorgetown · Post by **mkgeorgetown** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:30 pm

Hi all,
Started using and old belt of mine and I also got some Mother's Polish from Wally World (I read somewhere it would work ok who knows). Haven't had much luck with my Montecs (I think they are still too dull to strop), but my knife which cut hair before, I just have to say, holy cow. It is nasty sharp. It is strange cause you feel the edge and it is really smooth (almost doesn't "feel" sharp, then you just barely run it across your arm and the hairs pop off like crazy. I sharpened some of my Wasp blades that came with my right stuff, they are about as sharp as my knife. If nothing else out of this I have learned stropping makes a huge difference. It was not as difficult as I had imagined (thanks piper for the link). With the Montecs, actually got a better result today by raising the broadhead up slightly on its side so the edge could get more bite. Still not very impressive. Anyway, this has been good!!