Preaching to the Chior

kennisondan · Post by **kennisondan** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:37 pm

Hey Scott : I have to get a little ticked with the anti hunters no matter what portion of the hunting sector they are trying to stop from enjoying their sport.. against any hunting is anti - hunting.. makes a good sticker for a bumper... yes ? .. it is better not to try to convince someone who is arguing without logic and for a reason that is all about jealousy greed or fear.... I think that all three of these are the reasons anti cross folks do what they do...
they should just ignore us and we should ignore them.. we should start a rumour that there is a movement afoot : the anti hunters in general are funding the fight against cross bows and will use the same funds and arguements to continue the tide flow of opinion against all improvements on primitive weapons.. then the restrictions will spread to multi shot firearms and long range firearms... higher power scopes.. open sighted single shots with standard velocity ammunition wil be all that is legal.. (who knows... it is as likely to be true as not.. but if enough folks claim that is it .. maybe the divisive fighting will end.)
dk

mikej · Post by **mikej** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:53 pm

the old saying goes "there's a fool born everyday" , unfortunately they all seem to become " true" archery hunters completely set against the crossbow

raydaughety · Post by **raydaughety** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:59 pm

Grizzly Adam wrote:
crazyfarmer wrote: ... Chevy is the only way to go ...
No way, Crazy.

I've always driven GMC trucks.

I wouldn't have a Chevy.

I've gotta side with my "Carolina Brother" Grizz on this one

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fogducker · Post by **fogducker** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:11 pm

Sax.....
best rant ive read in a long time

one shot scott · Post by **one shot scott** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:12 pm

I agree with fogducker, Good rant. Any type of bow hunting is a learned skill. I like to think of any kind of bowhunting as a sort of brotherhood.(women not excluded vix) lets stick up for each other, not make life hard.

Nice ride ray!!

Phoenix_Tom · Post by **Phoenix_Tom** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:50 pm

I'm all confused. If we're taling trucks then obviously Dodge Rams are the best. I've towed them all out of the crap and never needed a tow for my Ram.

If we're talling forms of archery then we've got nothing to discuss. Archery is archery. All bickering should stop right here, and right now.

Moxie · Post by **Moxie** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:05 pm

I posted this on another forum when the question was ask about crossbows.. Some people just do not get it when it comes to the sport of hunting and maybe, never will. It was interesting to note that no one had a negative comment to follow this.

Just like with a vertical bow, it comes down to personal preference with a crossbow. I could not swing an excal for my 1st crossbow and purchased the Barnett Quad 300, a compound, and I was a very anti compound archer. The reservations I had went away and I discovered that more I used the quad 300, the more I had to learn. It was like shooting a rifle with complications of sticking a vertical bow on top of the barrel. It still required being zeroed. It required getting use to knowing where the limbs were at all times; because, the can and will get too close to other trees and have a very definite affect where the bolt hits. It still requires a lot of practice. It still meant knowing yardage and which pin or crosshair mark to use. It also comes with no let off to speak of. I will add, and I cannot speak for all crossbows on this, but my Quad 300 is loud when it goes off, and I do mean loud.

I got a shot last fall at a doe with twin fawns. It was not the arrow missing the doe that scared the heal out of the fawns and sent them packing, but the noise from my Quad 300 firing. I wish I had gotten it on video. I can still see the thing in my memory.

The are improving the FPS of bolts every year, just as they are with vertical bows. The really important thing is, whether it is a vertical bow or a crossbow, it gets more people, male and female, into the woods every year and we need everyone we can get out there.

I would also suggest that if you get a chance to shoot a crossbow, do it. It may help you understand a horizontal bow just a little better for your future. We all are getting older and have developing handicaps coming along.[/b]

one shot scott · Post by **one shot scott** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:15 pm

Isn't a GMC the same as a Chevrolet only with lock washers!

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Grizzly Adam · Post by **Grizzly Adam** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:27 pm

bstout wrote: Isn't a GMC the same as a Chevrolet only with lock washers?

Certainly not, Bob!

The grill, tailgate and steering wheel pad are all different.

K-Man · Post by **K-Man** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:05 pm

I drive a jeep. Good in the corn.

That being said I think it has been summed up out here. I will just add comment for my own therapy (thanks Sax for starting this). The anti movement is gaining momentum daily. I work in a field that is affected by them daily. These people equate animals to people or in most cases put animals before people. If hunters all don't set aside their pride we lose ground. The antis have one thing going for them-they do stick together (scary). Look around they have had an impact.

Fine, fine, fine, you vertical bow hunters you shoot better than me, you kill bigger bucks, you da best. Whatever . If you need to hunt in my field I'll welcome you and still put you on a good spot.

K-Man

Grizzly Adam · Post by **Grizzly Adam** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:20 pm

K-Man wrote: If hunters all don't set aside their pride we lose ground.

You've got that right, K-man!

And PRIDE, my friend, is what it's really all about ... damnable, perverse, pervasive human pride.

People have a tendency to fall prey to the "I'm better than you ..." syndrome because of pride:

Someone thinks they're better because they prefer to hunt with primitive weapons.

Another thinks they're superior because they like to use every gadget that purports to "increase the odds".

Someone else thinks they're the best because they refrain from this or that.

Yet another thinks they're the best because they do this or that.

Jealousy does the rest. Everyone's afraid someone else will horn in on what they consider their own little private world of hunting, and so they fight tooth and nail against whoever doesn't happen to do it like they do it.

And on and on it goes. And the antis laugh.

So they should ... they'll prevail in the end, if we don't all learn a little humility and concern for our fellow hunter, and get our head out of our collective butt and learn to stick together.

Solidarity, fellows, is the name of success.

ecoaster · Post by **ecoaster** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:17 am

I look at my crossbow and I look at my compound. Which has more bells and whistles? The compound. People ask me what I hunt with and my answer is always the same. Guns, crossbow, compound, and camera. I enjoy hunting with all of them and they all have their time and place. Each have advantages and disadvantages.

Canabow · Post by **Canabow** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:11 am

Ive always looked as myself as a hunter. I hunt with whatever I feel like hunting with that is legal for the area and time that I am hunting. I may choose to go out with my rifle, my compound, my recurve and now my crossbow. I support all other hunters in whatever way they choose to hunt as long as it is legal in the area they are hunting. We have to stick together or we all lose.