does not make sense

DForester · Post by **DForester** » Thu May 14, 2009 7:56 pm

I do not understand why the Equinox would be easier to cock than the Exomax? They both have the same draw length and draw weight. The Exomax is a little longer so it only makes sense that the stock is shorter on the Equinox. How does a shorter stock aid in the cocking of the bow? Does not make sense to me.

crazyfarmer · Post by **crazyfarmer** » Thu May 14, 2009 8:09 pm

where did you get that info btw?

both have a 16.5 power stroke so the strings only gonna move the same distance on both, thus ones not gonan be easier than the other.

if there was a difference, I doubt you would even notice it. Meaning, I couldnt tell the difference between 225 and 210 LOL

longer stock isnt gonna effect anything either... you arent cocking the stock

DForester · Post by **DForester** » Thu May 14, 2009 8:19 pm

I agree with you but read the equinox section in the catalog. It states it is easier to cock and steadier to hold. Simple physics tells me it should cock the same.

http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/images/2009%20cat.pdf

bigsy · Post by **bigsy** » Thu May 14, 2009 8:28 pm

My friend has a phoenix, and when cocking my exomax the first thing he said was how the stock got in the way, no you don't cock the stock but it not being in the way (shorter) would make it easier. My .02 anyway

Grizzly Adam · Post by **Grizzly Adam** » Thu May 14, 2009 8:30 pm

DForester wrote: It states it is easier to cock and steadier to hold.

Well, it could make sense ... if they're talking about the short stock being easier to lean over and not getting in the way of beer guts ... which is a problem with the longer models.

And if they are talking about cocking it with your hands, and the butt against your chest ... as can be done with crossbows ... in that case, the shorter stock would be an advantage ... but I can't imagine anyone cocking a 225 lb. crossbow that way, though!

crazyfarmer · Post by **crazyfarmer** » Thu May 14, 2009 8:35 pm

DForester wrote:I agree with you but read the equinox section in the catalog. It states it is easier to cock and steadier to hold. Simple physics tells me it should cock the same.

http://www.excaliburcrossbow.com/images/2009%20cat.pdf

its steadier to hold since it has a thumbhole stock

Ive never noticed the stock getting in my way on any of the bows.. Ive owned the exocet 200 and the equinox now. Used a rope cocker on both and never noticed the stock cocking for either.

also, marketing has some play in this also

some might notice a difference, but I doubt the average joe would

to me a 225pound draw is going to be a 225draw no matter what. Some days it feels like a 150pound bow and others it feels like 250 pounds LOL

but if the shorter stock helps, then great

DForester · Post by **DForester** » Thu May 14, 2009 8:38 pm

I would agree that the stock would be more ergonomic when cocking. Especially with large beer gut. (I LMAO on that one) but effort or (work preformed) should be equal to that of the Exomax.

Grizzly Adam · Post by **Grizzly Adam** » Thu May 14, 2009 8:46 pm

crazyfarmer wrote:Ive never noticed the stock getting in my way on any of the bows.. Ive owned the exocet 200 and the equinox now. Used a rope cocker on both and never noticed the stock cocking for either.

I think it might be a problem for short people, though, Crazy ... especially short, fat people. And of course, if you have to bend out over the stock to cock a bow, then that would make it much harder.

dutchhunter · Post by **dutchhunter** » Thu May 14, 2009 8:50 pm

that is what thy are talking about .the shorter stock is easyer to work around when cocking the bow by hand and it is a littel easyer to get the rope on as well DUTCH ps us big guys never had this problem but i have watched a few short guys have a hard time reac hing the string

Cossack · Post by **Cossack** » Thu May 14, 2009 10:51 pm

Don't know about y'all but I put the stock alongside my right side when cocking, not lean over it. Thus it basically does not matter low long it is (we're talking about just inch different, right?). Did have the Equinox for a while, tho; nothing easy to cock about that brute. Thank God for the Vortex and Phoenix I play with..

Grizzly Adam · Post by **Grizzly Adam** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:34 am

bstout wrote: Grizz, you're right on about the beer gut thing!

Mine is a barbecue gut, Bob!

pdislow · Post by **pdislow** » Fri May 15, 2009 9:44 am

My gut is barbeque and biscuits, and like cossack , I cock my max from the side somewhat.