anyone find thermo cel cold blooded

munch · Post by **munch** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:38 pm

i was out the other day when it was cold and thought i would light up before the bugs started.about 8 the bugs started and when i looked the flame was out but the gas was on. i put the butane canister in my shirt pocket for a 1/2 hour and it seemed to work fine after that.just wonder is it the gas or the unit thanks munch

bigsy · Post by **bigsy** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:41 pm

now that you mentioned it I couldn't get mine to light on Sunday, didn't think much of as there was a good breeze

Pydpiper · Post by **Pydpiper** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:47 pm

A breeze shouldn't stop it once it is going, but butane does act funny in the cold, just like propane.
My Thermacell died 1 year to the day it was bought, second one had a wimpy flame so I brought it back too, third time is a charm, I am good to go again. I think I had a bad bottle of Butane, one bottle stopped 2 cells from working properly..

bigsy · Post by **bigsy** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:51 pm

Sorry pyd meant to say because of the breeze didn't need the thermacell
so didn't think much of it not lighting, never thought of the cold

fogducker · Post by **fogducker** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:13 pm

sorry to hyjack the thread for a min here..
i was playing with my thermacell a few weeks ago. t noticed they get a wee bit of warmth to them . so i was wondering if anyone uses them for a hand warmer in the stands in the winter?

raydaughety · Post by **raydaughety** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:32 pm

I had one last Thursday now I have 3. Winchester had a promo going that if you bought 2 boxes of turkey loads or 1 box of "supreme" turkey loads then they would send you a free Thermacell. I sent off 1 coupon because it said "one per household" and they sent me 2 brand new camo thermacells on Friday

. I used mine on some chilly mornings during turkey season but it worked just fine.

bigsy · Post by **bigsy** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:35 pm

raydaughety wrote: Winchester had a promo going that if you bought 2 boxes of turkey loads or 1 box of "supreme" turkey loads then they would send you a free Thermacell. I sent off 1 coupon because it said "one per household" and they sent me 2 brand new camo thermacells on Friday .

I wish they would do some promos like that up here

mikej · Post by **mikej** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:35 pm

raydaughety wrote:I had one last Thursday now I have 3. Winchester had a promo going that if you bought 2 boxes of turkey loads or 1 box of "supreme" turkey loads then they would send you a free Thermacell. I sent off 1 coupon because it said "one per household" and they sent me 2 brand new camo thermacells on Friday . I used mine on some chilly mornings during turkey season but it worked just fine.

wow nice deal

raydaughety · Post by **raydaughety** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:46 pm

Sorry Munch, I didn't mean to steal your thread

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http://www.winchester.com/marketing/pro ... ar-off.pdf -

A great deal but I don't think they were supposed to send me two

. I know, I know. I can send it to...................

warningshot · Post by **warningshot** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:26 am

what kind of cool temp are we talking about??

Grizzly Adam · Post by **Grizzly Adam** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:09 am

bigsy wrote:Sorry pyd meant to say because of the breeze didn't need the thermacell

Man, our mosquitoes can fly in a hurricane!

wheelie · Post by **wheelie** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:23 am

4 degree is fairly cold, butane has to boil to turn from liquid to vapour. Sealed in a little bottle it is no different than a bick lighter that wont light until we warm it up by putting it in our hands and blowing on it to warm it up. The warmer it gets the faster the boil. I doubt there is anything wrong with your thermcell unit. the unit is cold also and acts like an insulator so it won't boil into a vapour. Just like a propane tank in winter when it gets covered in snow. Get lots of calls about fireplaces not working and all you have to do is shovel out the tank so the outside air can warm it a bit so it will change its state. There has to be a temperature difference between the liquid temp and the outside air around it in cold weather. The case that the bottle sits in wouldn't allow that to happen.
Boiling point of butane 31.1 oF
boiling point of propane -44 oF
boiling point of natural gas -258 oF

butane is 2
propane 1.6
air is 1
natural gas is .8
As you see butane is the heaviest gas among the 3 when compaired with the weight of air.

Study up, exam for you's in the morning LOL

So now if your propane waterheater has a gas leak why is it so dangerious compared to Natural Gas ?

munch · Post by **munch** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:41 am

wheelie is it because it burns hotter and lights faster. thanks for the info.
still waiting to see pics of your old bow munch

wheelie · Post by **wheelie** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:45 am

A propane leaks falls to the floor because it is heavier than air where the burner is and natural gas is lighter than air and goes up to the ceiling. So you need a much bigger leak or alot more time with Natural gas

dutchhunter · Post by **dutchhunter** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:37 am

hey how about carbon dieoxide is it heaveyer then air or will it float to the top .i always had my detecter close to the floor .anybody DUTCH

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anyone find thermo cel cold blooded

anyone find thermo cel cold blooded

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