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[agingcrossbower]

I bet Obama would be thought of entirely different if he took office in much better times. Two wars he took over, Lybia and a ressession not seen as bad for decades. He had virtually nothing to work with. I would bet your best presidents in history would be hated men if they took over what Obama did. I admire the man for what he took over and made work and get economy going again. Wars are good for manufacters in country but in the end someone has to pay for them. You the tax payers do. There is a price to pay.

Wheelie, I can't agree with you less, but and I could type a lot about this, but I won't. Its a crossbow forum. I'll PM you.

[wheelie]

Won't change my mind. I am sorry we got dragged in and can no longer be thought of as peace keepers again. Alot of my friends are high ranking military. My best friend and hunting buddy is one in fact. My wife is a military brat. We are forever known now as a fighting force.

[sumner4991]

There are several things he has failed to do. Pull the nation together is one thing. Give us a common goal. Failed to get the pipeline going. Failed to get a budget passed. Failed at getting a healthcare plan that we can actually afford and the people actually want.

Giving the "if I had a son" speech . . .stupid move.

He got Osama . . .somehow that blind squirrel got a nut. If he could only get the squirrel out of my attic . . .but, that's another program in need of a committee to determine the right course of action.

Carry on men!

[wheelie]

Do most Americans want the pipeline? I was under the impression no one wanted it in US.

We will take Obama and you can have our Prime Minister Harper. He comes with a free fake smile. Even though I voted for him. LOL

[CanuckBen]

There are several things he has failed to do. Pull the nation together is one thing. Give us a common goal. Failed to get the pipeline going. Failed to get a budget passed. Failed at getting a healthcare plan that we can actually afford and the people actually want.

Giving the "if I had a son" speech . . .stupid move.

He got Osama . . .somehow that blind squirrel got a nut. If he could only get the squirrel out of my attic . . .but, that's another program in need of a committee to determine the right course of action.

Carry on men!

You guys crack me up.

All we here from the Right wing fringe is failure this, failure that and its quite interesting . You keep complaining that your President failed to "pull the nation together" in one thing. Isn't quite obvious that from the onset of his presidency that the conservative never would have listen to him? He's a communist! He's a socialist! (we won't get into what the definitinos of those words are, don't want to overload it..) So whatever he would have done or said, the VAST majority wouldn't have listened anyways as he's going so far off against the conservative dream (idiology) that it would more worth while to oppose to it rather than actually work with it. Heck lets not forget, he's not even an American citizen, so he's not even a ligitimate President.

It would be great Scott if you could share with everyone (it being in this section) how you believe that a 3rd Conservative presidency (following Bush's 2nd term that is) and its political stance on a number of subject would have been better. Do you believe that more of the same (that is what the GoP would have offered) would have been better? What do you think would be the look of your country after 12 years of GoP, Bush-like administration? Much better? Way, way better? The complete opposite. It would be interesting to get your feedback and views on that, how more of the same complete utter failiure would have magically make it better.

On my earlier point of "pulling together". Since when do you guys need pulling together?? I was always under the impression that you guys could all do that by yourself, don't need anyone's help or guidance, heck CERTAINLY NOT from a FEDERAL gvt level official like the your President. Using the idiology of the GoP, that the least involvement of the Feds as possible, the better. Sooooo whatever he would say really shouldn't matter. YOU would take care of your own. You would find new work, whatever it may be. You will go back to school and learn a new trade, whatever it'd take. You had saved up for rainy days. Or maybe not. I certianly hope you can see how confidence can turn into arrogance and come bite you right back in the arse.

To healtcare. Pfffffffff. Ain't no Federals gvnt who'll tell you guys what you need. Bandaid and a few stich is all y'all need in your lifetime anyways. Oh and private hc insurance of course @ $550/month.

The pipeline? C'mon now. It's to the US what the LGR was to Canada. A complete misguidance of facts. Sure it'll profit the big oil and gas companies, but whatever the consequenses really shouldn't matter. You strongly believe that it would have made an impact, turn your economy around?? Better give your head a real good shake. A drop of water in the bucket is the difference it would have made. A really good thing for China though.

So we're to Romney. Interesting fella isn't he. Whats even more interesting actually is that he's so darn close to the center of the political spectrum that he's a policy or two away from being a fringe Democrat..sorry, a communist, my bad. Whats even more interesting is that your OWN political base choose him over all of the other GoP candidates. Why is that? It can't be because you guys don't know what you're doing because for the past 3 and half year all we've heard you say is that you KNEW what HAD to be done in all of the different situations your current President faced. So choosing Romney is the only choice to be made. The step in the Right (no pun intended) direction.

It'll be VERY interesting to revisit these conversations in 4 years from now, ESPECIALLY is the GoP wins the next election. How will have Romney done. Will you guys again be the center of the universe, the ultimate economic driver, the leader in all be all. It sure will be a welcome break of all this whining and complaining.

[Pydpiper]

Dog, eeew.

[sumner4991]

Ben . . .I guess we will never know for sure about your "what ifs" . . .you certainly have about as much background as Obama in predicting outcomes. However, there are arguements from credited experts that strongly suggest otherwise.

What we do know for a fact. . .Obama has failed in every undertaking except for killing Osama. He was elected to get things done, he has elected to do nothing.

He is a miserable President. I would have much rather of had Clinton . . .either of them.

Wheelie . . .I'm not sure if there was a "poll" on the pipeline, but, I've seen both Dems and Reps wishing the pipeline deal was done. I do believe Obama will eventually approve it.

***Edit . . .found this on the USA Today website. ..

"poll respondents support construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline 64% to 22%. Obama says the project that runs from Canada to Texas requires more environmental study."


http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... pipeline/1

[one shot scott]

Dog, eeew.

LOL!
timing is everything!

[Ont_Excal]

Dog, eeew.

LOL!
timing is everything!

Timing of your avatar change as well!

[Dave1]

My wife is convinced Obummo is the anti-Christ.

There is much debate about his background, but the fact is no one has ever been able to trace his background in the US which supports the idea he is not a legal US citizen and should not have been allowed to run or get elected in the first palce. He has done more to separate the races than any pres before him. Looking at his very controversial associations with radicals and anti-white racists, Fed building bomber/killer, and other anti-US persons and groups, I cannot believe Americans would have over looked those situations and elected him to be our leader in the first place. He and the Demos have taken us deep into an entitlement society. Sooner or later they will run out of everydody else's money to spend. It is a sick situation and is getting worse. Black and white America needs to wake up!

Dave

[wheelie]

Maybe you won't see him much now. Sounds like he has no Secret Service left now. Remaining members may not be watching out for him. Brings a new meaning for "sleeper cells". Maybe you have another Tiger by the tail. LOL

[CanuckBen]

Caucasian & African-American American


ohh and Asian, Hispanic, American-Indian, Indo-Asian..


but who's counting right

[Gewehrhund]

Wow, strong words against a President that was handed a serious pile of crap from , without a doubt the worst president the U.S. has ever had. When Bush took over the U.S. had no deficit, after Bush the deficit is around 3 trillion. It's kind of like when he bought the Texas Rangers for 700 million and sold them for under 200. Thank god daddy is rich huh? Typically for a country,war, which is a horrible thing, is good for business, not with that idiot. As for Obama's citizenship, it has been proven, read something semi current please. Fox news! are you kidding me? You could walk into any bar anywhere and find 4 far more intelligent people than you can find sitting in front of those cameras! Aren't real journalists supposed to be somewhat neutral and just report the news? Here's a clue for everyone out there...the republicans are never going to abolish abortion, which is why a lot of religious zealots vote republican. By the way religion has NO place in government..if it does you end up with the middle east. Democrats will never take our guns. In my opinion if you are a U.S. citizen and make less than say, 10 million dollars a year you have nothing in common with a republican. How many old fat multi millionaires do we have on this site? The distribution of wealth in this country right now is really close to what it was during the great depression. Well over 95% of the wealth is had by less than 2% of the population. This is what Bush and the republicans want. A very small rich class, No middle class(we are the ones who cause all the trouble), and a huge lower class. Any body got kids in or about to go into college? Every year grants for kids who need help get less and less or are removed altogether. Pretty soon who gets to go to school? rich kids, who gets to wash dishes? every frickin body else. Don't get me started on the tax break for the rich? Are you serious? I pay around 28% Someone who makes millions pays !%. How about a reach around next year republicans? And since when did it become OK to be a racist on this site? Does it really matter what race the president is?

[Pydpiper]

Dog, eeew.

[agingcrossbower]

OK, a member said when Bush took office there was NO debt and when he left after 8 years it was 3 trillion. If that number is correct Obama in 3.50yrs raised the debt to 15.50 trillion dollars.
When Bush left office the unemployment rate was 4.7. The present rate is around 8.8.
When Bush left office the cost of a gal. of gas was 1.95. A present its in our area 3.88.
Another thing is the last 2 years of the Bush presidency he was a lame duck President. The last two years is when most of this debt was made mostly pushed by a Democratic congress hell bent on spending us to death.

I know, I know I'm a racist, Bush is bad Blah, Blah, Blah.