Thumbholes?
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- needmorebacon
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Thumbholes?
So when I bought my new bow 2 years ago I bought it strictly bc it DIDNT have a thumbhole. The new matrix line is fabulous love the look and compact design but cannot get behind the thumbhole. Its not traditional, it gets caught on sticks and personally I find it ugly. I know many of you love thumboles and that's fine too to each there own. Anyone think they'll make a matrix with no thumbhole? and why did you choose thumbhole? Thanks all happy hunting.
2011 Axiom
GT Laser II-Right Helical
175gr. Slick Tricks
353 gr. overall bolt
GT Laser II-Right Helical
175gr. Slick Tricks
353 gr. overall bolt
Re: Thumbholes?
All of my rifles (except my 1937 Monkey Ward single shot .22 made by Mossberg) have either thumb holes or pistol like handgrips, as does my Ibex.needmorebacon wrote:So when I bought my new bow 2 years ago I bought it strictly bc it DIDNT have a thumbhole. The new matrix line is fabulous love the look and compact design but cannot get behind the thumbhole. Its not traditional, it gets caught on sticks and personally I find it ugly. I know many of you love thumboles and that's fine too to each there own. Anyone think they'll make a matrix with no thumbhole? and why did you choose thumbhole? Thanks all happy hunting.
I have shoulder issues and the thumbhole type stocks let me continue to comfortably use the rifle or crossbow. Never had a problem with branches getting caught. Much greater likelihood of branches getting caught in the foot stirrup or between the limbs and the string.
I'm not into wood stocks. I find them ugly and heavy. I never liked buggy whips much either.
I like polymers.
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I don't do pretty or ugly i do best function n comfort. I have 4 Vixens & a E'cet. One of my Vixens is a thumbhole! I use it the most, some ppl. find the safety awkward i find that amusin. When i see a tick toter i want to kill i flip safety off prior to them gettin too close to see any movement. I love the thumbhole stock its easier to hold tightly abit more comfortable & its shorter than the traditional stock
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I've only handled a Matrix a couple times in the store, never shot one. The pistol grip feels good but I also found the safety awkward to reach without almost completely removing my trigger hand from the bow. Maybe it's just something you have to get used to. I wanted an AR style rifle for years but every time I handled one I thought I didnt like the way it felt, just felt strange after a lifetime of traditional wood stocked rifles. But I finally got one this year, and after some range time and several hunts (and one deer) I've gotten used to it and it feels really good now, maybe the Matrix will be the same. I'm planning on getting one this spring, but I'm waiting to see what's new for '14 before I take the plunge.
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20" Zombies, 380 gr w/ 100 gr Magnus Stingers
18" Zombies, 400 gr w/ 125 gr Magnus Stingers & Lumenoks
Exomag
20" Zombies, 380 gr w/ 100 gr Magnus Stingers
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I got and like both styles. But for hunting it's my 380 or vortex. Especially long tree stand sits. So thumb hole for for hunting. Rec shooting ,...heck don't matter.. I love all my bows
I like things with strings.....
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13 Grayling Bears
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4 Guitars
8 Excals
1 Scorpyd
PSE Tac Elite
13 Grayling Bears
And 2 Hoyts
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isn't it only your thumb you are moving to move safety off ??....I'm pretty darn sure deer aren't that slick eyed seeing small stuff move "thumb"....vixenmaster wrote:I don't do pretty or ugly i do best function n comfort. I have 4 Vixens & a E'cet. One of my Vixens is a thumbhole! I use it the most, some ppl. find the safety awkward i find that amusin. When i see a tick toter i want to kill i flip safety off prior to them gettin too close to see any movement. I love the thumbhole stock its easier to hold tightly abit more comfortable & its shorter than the traditional stock
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boo string and trigger work.
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2" blazers on 2117 XX75 w/ brass inserts.
boo string and trigger work.
munch mount quiver mount.
125 gr slick trick magums.
2" blazers on 2117 XX75 w/ brass inserts.
- Peacemaker
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I don't have a preference. All of my rifles are traditional stocks, but most are older; my previous xbow was a Barnett (sorry, we all make mistakes) with a thumbhole and I liked it....my excalibur an exocet without thumbhole.....like that, too.
seems to be like there are plenty of other things (limbs, stirrup, sling) that will get caught on woodsy things before the thumbhole would......
seems to be like there are plenty of other things (limbs, stirrup, sling) that will get caught on woodsy things before the thumbhole would......
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Easier to hang onto in the stand, perfect hand fit for trigger release.
Vortex, Phoenix, single-shot rifles and handguns.
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Why hunt? Simple, it's BASIC. Why breath?!
Incurable tinkerer.
Why hunt? Simple, it's BASIC. Why breath?!
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One of the fellas on here had Danny Miller switch the 355 stock for a vixen stock when he bought his 355 package from him. I always thought that wouldn't work, but apparently it does. Maybe wanna check with Danny Miller if you want a matrix and don't like the thumb hole look.
My preference is the thumb hole. It's solider when I go to shoulder it and just has the "right" feel to it. Each to their own is how I look at it.
My preference is the thumb hole. It's solider when I go to shoulder it and just has the "right" feel to it. Each to their own is how I look at it.
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Five bows here and zero thumbhole stocks. All traditional stocks so I can keep switching them around. Spend half my life resighting in because I changed something.
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I hunted with my brothers axiom. I purchased the ibex, preferred the thumbhole.
More natural to me.
My next one will be a thumbhole.
More natural to me.
My next one will be a thumbhole.
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I have both traditional and thumbhole and I love to shoot them both. The thumbholes do take a bit more dexterity to hit the safety but it becomes second nature very quickly.
As far as wood stock being heavy, old or ugly, you really need to take a look at some of Agingcrossbower's work. Besides the perfect fit that only a custom stock can provide, I think these handcrafted beauties look far more "futuristic" than any of the standard issue stocks. Yes synthetic stocks have some advantages but I have yet to see one that can compete with a finely crafted wood stock.
As far as wood stock being heavy, old or ugly, you really need to take a look at some of Agingcrossbower's work. Besides the perfect fit that only a custom stock can provide, I think these handcrafted beauties look far more "futuristic" than any of the standard issue stocks. Yes synthetic stocks have some advantages but I have yet to see one that can compete with a finely crafted wood stock.
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I feel the same way started out with a Muzzleloader with thumbhole and any crossbow I own will have a thumbhole I just love them.xcaliber wrote:I got a thumbhole stock on my muzzle loader many years ago, hooked ever since. Comfort, and control for me.
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- yooper_man
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Re: Thumbholes?
When I bought my first Excalibur I only looked at thumbhole stocks. My first was the Equinox and sold it for my Matrix 355. Never had an issue with sticks or brush getting in the thumbhole. Taking the safety off is simple, quick and has never been a burden.
I did pick up an Excalibur traditional stocked crossbow in a store, but was quickly turned off from the sharp edges that contact the web between my thumb and fingers. I didn't shoot it, so these sharp edges might not be an issue. I just didn't understand their purpose.
Andrew
I did pick up an Excalibur traditional stocked crossbow in a store, but was quickly turned off from the sharp edges that contact the web between my thumb and fingers. I didn't shoot it, so these sharp edges might not be an issue. I just didn't understand their purpose.
Andrew
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2007 Leupold VX-I 2-7x33 Dark Earth NWTF Edition Turkey Plex scope
Dan xcaliber flemish Brownell XS2 string, 18" Easton XX75 2219 aluminum shafts, 2" Bohning Blazer vanes, NAP 170gr F.O.C., Danny Miller's RBBB's