Camo vs black speed ?
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Re: Camo vs black speed ?
I did a super quick chronograph on my micro today, only 7 shots standing without a rest. It averaged 341fps. This weekend I will set up my rest and do some more in depth testing properly set up.
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Re: Camo vs black speed ?
Ok guys. I took a few shot with my Nightmare and an Excalibur Quill through amy chrono. I have a Pro Chrono with the light kit. All shots were indoor.
I have a Danny Miller Flemish string on my Micro. My brace height is set to where the front edge of my serving is just touching the outer edge of the line etched into the rail. The string is on the side of the line heading up the rail towards the trigger.
I do not know what my limb deflection #'s are
Components weighed on my digital grain scale.
Red Micro string weighs in at 95 grains.
Danny Miller Flemish string weighs in at 114 grains.
Note: I did not shoot the red Micro string.
I shot six arrows. Three with the 150 grain tip and three with a 100 grain tip.
The Quill with a 150 grain tip weighs in at 397 grain complete
The Quill with a 100 grain tip weighs in at 346 grains complete
The 346 grain Quill shot a 3 arrow average of 346.3 FPS.
The 397 grain Quill shat a 3 arrow average of 328.3 FPS.
Your mileage may vary.
And I froze my butt off all day in the stand from pre- dawn to 30 minutes after sunset and did not see one deer....
I have a Danny Miller Flemish string on my Micro. My brace height is set to where the front edge of my serving is just touching the outer edge of the line etched into the rail. The string is on the side of the line heading up the rail towards the trigger.
I do not know what my limb deflection #'s are
Components weighed on my digital grain scale.
Red Micro string weighs in at 95 grains.
Danny Miller Flemish string weighs in at 114 grains.
Note: I did not shoot the red Micro string.
I shot six arrows. Three with the 150 grain tip and three with a 100 grain tip.
The Quill with a 150 grain tip weighs in at 397 grain complete
The Quill with a 100 grain tip weighs in at 346 grains complete
The 346 grain Quill shot a 3 arrow average of 346.3 FPS.
The 397 grain Quill shat a 3 arrow average of 328.3 FPS.
Your mileage may vary.
And I froze my butt off all day in the stand from pre- dawn to 30 minutes after sunset and did not see one deer....
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Re: Camo vs black speed ?
GrassyKnoll wrote:Ok guys. I took a few shot with my Nightmare and an Excalibur Quill through amy chrono. I have a Pro Chrono with the light kit. All shots were indoor.
I have a Danny Miller Flemish string on my Micro. My brace height is set to where the front edge of my serving is just touching the outer edge of the line etched into the rail. The string is on the side of the line heading up the rail towards the trigger.
I do not know what my limb deflection #'s are
Components weighed on my digital grain scale.
Red Micro string weighs in at 95 grains.
Danny Miller Flemish string weighs in at 114 grains.
Note: I did not shoot the red Micro string.
I shot six arrows. Three with the 150 grain tip and three with a 100 grain tip.
The Quill with a 150 grain tip weighs in at 397 grain complete
The Quill with a 100 grain tip weighs in at 346 grains complete
The 346 grain Quill shot a 3 arrow average of 346.3 FPS.
The 397 grain Quill shat a 3 arrow average of 328.3 FPS.
Your mileage may vary.
And I froze my butt off all day in the stand from pre- dawn to 30 minutes after sunset and did not see one deer....
IMPRESSIVE NUMBERS INDEED.
I don't feel underpowered with my Micro. I feel it is an unfair advantage!!
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Re: Camo vs black speed ?
Don't waste your time put your chrono's away, I saw it on the internet the BLACK ONES are FASTER.
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Re: Camo vs black speed ?
I almost forgot mine is camo.
Re: Camo vs black speed ?
well that settles it thenonequillkid wrote:Don't waste your time put your chrono's away, I saw it on the internet the BLACK ONES are FASTER.
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Re: Camo vs black speed ?
yepper! and don't you forget it!strum wrote:well that settles it thenonequillkid wrote:Don't waste your time put your chrono's away, I saw it on the internet the BLACK ONES are FASTER.
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Re: Camo vs black speed ?
Ran the two Micros through the chrony tonight!!
351gr arra--Black 4 shot group AV -341
Camo 4 shot group AV -338
361gr arra--Black 4 shot group AV-336
Camo 4 shot group AV-333
Stock strings on both!
351gr arra--Black 4 shot group AV -341
Camo 4 shot group AV -338
361gr arra--Black 4 shot group AV-336
Camo 4 shot group AV-333
Stock strings on both!
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Re: Camo vs black speed ?
mr meat wrote:Ran the two Micros through the chrony tonight!!
351gr arra--Black 4 shot group AV -341
Camo 4 shot group AV -338
361gr arra--Black 4 shot group AV-336
Camo 4 shot group AV-333
Stock strings on both!
....so there you have it...the Nightmare 335 blows away the competition! (Not really, but it's fun to think it!)
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Re: Camo vs black speed ?
Looking good Wes.mr meat wrote:Ran the two Micros through the chrony tonight!!
351gr arra--Black 4 shot group AV -341
Camo 4 shot group AV -338
361gr arra--Black 4 shot group AV-336
Camo 4 shot group AV-333
Stock strings on both!
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Re: Camo vs black speed ?
strum wrote:well that settles it thenonequillkid wrote:Don't waste your time put your chrono's away, I saw it on the internet the BLACK ONES are FASTER.
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Re: Camo vs black speed ?
My kingquad, racecar and 380 are all black.......Go Figure......
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Re: Camo vs black speed ?
coli wrote:I did a super quick chronograph on my micro today, only 7 shots standing without a rest. It averaged 341fps. This weekend I will set up my rest and do some more in depth testing properly set up.
346 with stock quill and 100 grain head for a total of 350 grains.
Mine is the camo Micro.
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Re: Camo vs black speed ?
I am inclined to believe that the baking process for the camo bows may somehow weaken a limb. That's plausible.
But to make a real comparison between the Nightmare and XTRA we'd need to see what everyone has for limb deflection values. I am testing some Matrix stuff and learning that this factor alone is makes all the difference. I suspect the effect on Micro speed is the same but I have yet to test that. I spoke with someone that is getting close to 350fps from a hot pair of limbs on a Micro 335.
I heard that a high deflection value for the Micro series is 33#. If you've removed your micro limbs, post your values in this thread so we can settle this debate!
But to make a real comparison between the Nightmare and XTRA we'd need to see what everyone has for limb deflection values. I am testing some Matrix stuff and learning that this factor alone is makes all the difference. I suspect the effect on Micro speed is the same but I have yet to test that. I spoke with someone that is getting close to 350fps from a hot pair of limbs on a Micro 335.
I heard that a high deflection value for the Micro series is 33#. If you've removed your micro limbs, post your values in this thread so we can settle this debate!
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Re: Camo vs black speed ?
26.5# & 27# on my Micro RTX. Saw it when I installed my Airbrakes.
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