Is This Really Archery Hunting?

agingcrossbower · Post by **agingcrossbower** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:36 pm

Honestly, to me it looks like a gun with an arrow stuck in the end of it. But hey, whatever trips your trigger. To me it is not a bow just because it launches an arrow. And, its not a gun because there is no BANG. Its a mess.

jparchery · Post by **jparchery** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:30 pm

The AirBow will Not wipe out any archery equipment being used today, just like the crossbow didn't wipe out the compound bow. There is something gratifying about harvesting an animal with a compound bow, I know many people that love the challenge of compound bow hunting. I personally like having the odds in my favour ,which is why I shoot crossbows. Now getting back on topic, is it archery hunting? I think it is

wabi · Post by **wabi** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:52 pm

DMc · Post by **DMc** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:10 pm

jparchery wrote:The AirBow will Not wipe out any archery equipment being used today,....

Come on guys, of course it woun't, it's not archery! It is most definitely an airgun that shoots an arrow. Believing anything else is just a dream initiated by advertising people with strong bias.

So far I believe everyone that has posted has agreed that this looks to be another great hunting tool. There is just no need to try and place it where it doesn't fit.

sproulman · Post by **sproulman** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:38 pm

It is going to be at Harrisburg sportsmans show...Most in our sportsmans club have already seen it they are EXCITED ,so far..All want it legal in pa for archery hunting.All said they will give up crossbows ..NOT MANY HAVE COMPOUND BOW NOW,very few they WERE compound bow hunters...They want it for their kids as a 3 year old can hunt now in pa for deer and turkeys ...ONLY LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT I HEAR.....Some in our club still use compound bows to hunt deer and they like to shoot arrows ..

tomcat · Post by **tomcat** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:34 pm

By definition....It IS NOT a bow or an "Airbow". The name is no more accurate than the term "Arrow gun" is for crossbows. Disabled won't be able to use it in any "archery season" as it's a "firearm" by definition and unless I'm mistaken there aren't any states allowing firearms during archery season. If anyone is confused to the definition of archery, feel free to consult whatever dictionary you chose:)

sproulman · Post by **sproulman** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:39 pm

tomcat wrote:By definition....It IS NOT a bow or an "Airbow". The name is no more accurate than the term "Arrow gun" is for crossbows. Disabled won't be able to use it in any "archery season" as it's a "firearm" by definition and unless I'm mistaken there aren't any states allowing firearms during archery season. If anyone is confused to the definition of archery, feel free to consult whatever dictionary you chose:)

PA allows 1 week of gun in archery season now in october...Doe only ....Archery hunters tried to stop it but lost..

amythntr · Post by **amythntr** » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:29 pm

....we can battle back and forth...I agree it does not fit into the traditional definition of archery...I wonder what the definition of archery was before the compound bow was invented and so on...my only argument for what it is worth is that if "the people want it" and the push is large enough...I BELIEVE it WILL happen...but what we all can take to the bank is....TIME WILL TELL...

Anthony

strum · Post by **strum** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:06 am

I watched one of the Shockey videos and first i have to say..What a wast of a beautiful Bison(but thats another subject)
I have to say the air bow gun arrow slinger thingy is neat.
Not sure its for me but thats what i said about xbows years ago.
First thing i thought. it looks frikkin dangerous!!
I know all our weapons are and we have to handle them with the utmost respect. But!! I dont get a good feeling here. It looks like its so easy that people will be miss handling it more than usual .
Now back to the subject.
I dont see me lobbying for it to be used in archery season and im not sure i can call it archery but at the same time im not totally against it either.
When it comes right down to it and im in my treestand with my xbow I cant see how some one else out there in their tree stand using the air thing is going to change my hunt.

tomcat · Post by **tomcat** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:34 am

We can speculate in our closed circle of crossbow gurus who already by nature have an open mind to the inclusion of "arrow guns" into the archery only season. The division we have here alone in a VERY biased/receptive crowd would certainly not be the same among crowds of our fellow deer hunters as a whole.
The premise that majority of compound & trad archers will overshadow crossbow guys open to the idea and push to prevent it's use during their archery season alone would probably stop it. However compound this resistance with the pressure from Firearm and MZ guys who think it's unfair that they can't use their FIREARM as well during archery only season and you'll see just how dismal the possibility of it's inclusion during archery only season really is.

We can "think" and slice and dice this all day..but in the end the criteria for ARCHERY ONLY SEASONS require "strings" by definition no matter what we think is fair.

tomcat · Post by **tomcat** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:47 am

sproulman wrote:
tomcat wrote:By definition....It IS NOT a bow or an "Airbow". The name is no more accurate than the term "Arrow gun" is for crossbows. Disabled won't be able to use it in any "archery season" as it's a "firearm" by definition and unless I'm mistaken there aren't any states allowing firearms during archery season. If anyone is confused to the definition of archery, feel free to consult whatever dictionary you chose:)

PA allows 1 week of gun in archery season now in october...Doe only ....Archery hunters tried to stop it but lost..

Here in OH, our firearms/MZ/youth firearms season(s) also run inside of our 4 month Archery season.
During the firearm dates you can still use archery tackle but must comply with firearms season rules such as wearing orange and shortened hours(changed this year).
There simply wasn't any sense in closing archery for another season to take place, if that equipment is legal within it as well.

And of course the Archery hunters lost....as most don't realize just HOW BIG the orange army really is in every state. Our crowd of archery/crossbow guys only seems big to us because we are surrounded with other crossbow/archery guys. If you really think about it...more deer are taken in firearms season than the rest of archery season. Sheer numbers enable that. They have the biggest voice and the most money to influence decisions.

sproulman · Post by **sproulman** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:31 am

Nice info folks...When crossbows were allowed here in pa I saw almost all our club members go to crossbow some stayed with vertical compound.Why did they change?Much easier to use crossbow and get deer..1 crew of mine shot 25 bears this year using crossbows..Before that they got like 5 bears..Many got bucks this year with crossbows that did not with vertical bows they had before..So if AIRBOW is easier which it looks like it is you can load 7 arrows,remove arrow without shooting,it looks LIGHT no doubt if allowed in ARCHERY SEASON hunters will change to AIRBOW..

robertyb · Post by **robertyb** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:00 pm

I think if you look at all the costs involved with shooting this weapon you will find that very few people will be willing to pay it. From everything I have thus far read you will not be using a hand pump to pump it up but will require a specialized tank that costs several hundreds of dollars and a compressor to fill the tank with also. That is on top of the cost of the "arrow gun".
Looking around $2,000 or so to start.

tomcat · Post by **tomcat** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:50 pm

Where is the assumption coming from that anyone would try to get one approved for archery only seasons? Is this because it uses an arrow(whichby definition is actually missile not an arrow as it has no nock and isn't propelled by a string) rather than a bullet??? I guess we all have our fantasies though

nchunterkw · Post by **nchunterkw** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:53 pm

sproulman wrote:Nice info folks...When crossbows were allowed here in pa I saw almost all our club members go to crossbow some stayed with vertical compound.Why did they change?Much easier to use crossbow and get deer..1 crew of mine shot 25 bears this year using crossbows..Before that they got like 5 bears..Many got bucks this year with crossbows that did not with vertical bows they had before..So if AIRBOW is easier which it looks like it is you can load 7 arrows,remove arrow without shooting,it looks LIGHT no doubt if allowed in ARCHERY SEASON hunters will change to AIRBOW..

I'm having a rough time with some of this info sproulman...

"They want it for their kids as a 3 year old can hunt now in pa for deer and turkeys ...ONLY LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT I HEAR....."

I checked the PA Game Commission site and the only license available for a kid under 7yrs old is a Mentor Youth License that comes with No Tags.......and they certainly can't use someone else's tags.......

And PA Archery Bear season is 5 days long. So your guys went from 1 bear a day to 5 bears a day because of crossbows?

Sorry, but I'm not buying what you are selling....

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