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Re: Compound Crossbows

Post by 76chevy » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:05 pm

bought a scorpyd this year...sold it already. 100% excal for me. Compounds have too much to go wrong

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Re: Compound Crossbows

Post by 76chevy » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:09 pm

say you are four+ hours from home in rural area out of state on a multiple day hunt...I know what bow I want with me. With a spare string and bow restringer. I can be back in action in minutes not hours or days hoping to find an open pro shop with xbow press.
paulaboutform wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:18 pm
I've been a certified level II tech for many years working primarily on compound bows. In my experience it depends on the string materials used, the cam design, and the amount of shooting done. Our recurve limb bow strings need adjustment for brace height, compound strings and cables will need adjustments for both cam synchronization and timing. This is easily done but you actually need a press that'll work on a crossbow and you need to know what to look for and the adjustments to make. I personally have a wheeled Frankenbow in the lab being made right now and I also bought a portable press to work on that bow as none of my shop presses will work on that narrow of a bow. I wish I could be more helpful but there really are a lot of variables. I guess if you aren't able to work on the bow yourself and you're not near a QUALIFIED pro shop, avoid the wheels. If you can get the work done easily then give it a shot.

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Re: Compound Crossbows

Post by paulaboutform » Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:28 pm

76chevy wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:09 pm
say you are four+ hours from home in rural area out of state on a multiple day hunt...I know what bow I want with me. With a spare string and bow restringer. I can be back in action in minutes not hours or days hoping to find an open pro shop with xbow press.
paulaboutform wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:18 pm
I've been a certified level II tech for many years working primarily on compound bows. In my experience it depends on the string materials used, the cam design, and the amount of shooting done. Our recurve limb bow strings need adjustment for brace height, compound strings and cables will need adjustments for both cam synchronization and timing. This is easily done but you actually need a press that'll work on a crossbow and you need to know what to look for and the adjustments to make. I personally have a wheeled Frankenbow in the lab being made right now and I also bought a portable press to work on that bow as none of my shop presses will work on that narrow of a bow. I wish I could be more helpful but there really are a lot of variables. I guess if you aren't able to work on the bow yourself and you're not near a QUALIFIED pro shop, avoid the wheels. If you can get the work done easily then give it a shot.

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Re: Compound Crossbows

Post by Hester0305 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:20 am

janesy wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:09 pm
The Stryker katana 360 was talking to me for a while. But I didn't do anything.
The Skorpyd's are pretty awesome, fantastic triggers.
I had been wanting to try one of those Katana 360's out for a couple of years so I bought one about a month ago and now I have the best of both worlds a compound crossbow that I can decock that is really quiet and has all the features of Excalibur from the front of the rail back to the stock. Now the big question is how long will it last and be trouble free like the Ecaliburs I've owned.
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Re: Compound Crossbows

Post by Boo » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:49 am

Hester0305 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:20 am
janesy wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:09 pm
The Stryker katana 360 was talking to me for a while. But I didn't do anything.
The Skorpyd's are pretty awesome, fantastic triggers.
I had been wanting to try one of those Katana 360's out for a couple of years so I bought one about a month ago and now I have the best of both worlds a compound crossbow that I can decock that is really quiet and has all the features of Excalibur from the front of the rail back to the stock. Now the big question is how long will it last and be trouble free like the Ecaliburs I've owned.
The Katana is arguably the best compound crossbow ever made. The only real weak point it had was the poor quality cables and strings. It's truly asinine that a bow that is so reliable was dropped out of production only because it lacked sex appeal. The lack of sex appeal and the aura that hung around Bowtech's sordid past like toilet paper hanging out of a person's backside was minor compared to it's lack of cocaine like extreme speeds that the public now demands. It's a pity because it had so many possibilities from speeds over 400 to being much smaller while maintaining speeds of 350 ft\sec.
Still, cables and strings are not a simple replacement. You have to balance 2 cam timing, cam position and the ATA all at the same time. You then have to shoot the bow until the strings and cables have stopped creeping. You then have to repeat step one. Yes you can change strings and cables in the field with some crossbows but if you do not have a bow press, be prepared to pull your hair out. As a primary bow, an Excalibur is still the intelligent choice.
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Re: Compound Crossbows

Post by janesy » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:10 am

Boo wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:49 am
Hester0305 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:20 am
janesy wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:09 pm
The Stryker katana 360 was talking to me for a while. But I didn't do anything.
The Skorpyd's are pretty awesome, fantastic triggers.
I had been wanting to try one of those Katana 360's out for a couple of years so I bought one about a month ago and now I have the best of both worlds a compound crossbow that I can decock that is really quiet and has all the features of Excalibur from the front of the rail back to the stock. Now the big question is how long will it last and be trouble free like the Ecaliburs I've owned.
The Katana is arguably the best compound crossbow ever made. The only real weak point it had was the poor quality cables and strings. It's truly asinine that a bow that is so reliable was dropped out of production only because it lacked sex appeal. The lack of sex appeal and the aura that hung around Bowtech's sordid past like toilet paper hanging out of a person's backside was minor compared to it's lack of cocaine like extreme speeds that the public now demands. It's a pity because it had so many possibilities from speeds over 400 to being much smaller while maintaining speeds of 350 ft\sec.
Still, cables and strings are not a simple replacement. You have to balance 2 cam timing, cam position and the ATA all at the same time. You then have to shoot the bow until the strings and cables have stopped creeping. You then have to repeat step one. Yes you can change strings and cables in the field with some crossbows but if you do not have a bow press, be prepared to pull your hair out. As a primary bow, an Excalibur is still the intelligent choice.
That's exactly why I dragged my feet, and continue to do so
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Re: Compound Crossbows

Post by Fatboy111 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:30 pm

I work on a lot of wheelie crossbows. Won’t name brands, but it’s a lot. When I see that, that’s why I shoot an Excalibur. Tweek cables to get cams synced and then twist again after strings and cables settle. Also, when they blow they typically take out the limbs, cams, and strings and cables. It’s a tear down. Excalibur is so much easier to take care of to me-prob because I’m tired of working on the wheelies. Each has their pros and cons. Doesn’t matter really, shoot what you want, take care of it, and hunt.

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Re: Compound Crossbows

Post by 76chevy » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:51 pm

MY excal outshot the scorpyd . Maybe I got a bad one...don't know.
Hester0305 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:20 am
janesy wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:09 pm
...
The Skorpyd's are pretty awesome, fantastic triggers.
...

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Re: Compound Crossbows

Post by 76chevy » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:52 pm

Great minds think alike!
paulaboutform wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:28 pm
76chevy wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:09 pm
say you are four+ hours from home in rural area out of state on a multiple day hunt...I know what bow I want with me. With a spare string and bow restringer. I can be back in action in minutes not hours or days hoping to find an open pro shop with xbow press.
paulaboutform wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:18 pm
I've been a certified level II tech for many years working primarily on compound bows. In my experience it depends on the string materials used, the cam design, and the amount of shooting done. Our recurve limb bow strings need adjustment for brace height, compound strings and cables will need adjustments for both cam synchronization and timing. This is easily done but you actually need a press that'll work on a crossbow and you need to know what to look for and the adjustments to make. I personally have a wheeled Frankenbow in the lab being made right now and I also bought a portable press to work on that bow as none of my shop presses will work on that narrow of a bow. I wish I could be more helpful but there really are a lot of variables. I guess if you aren't able to work on the bow yourself and you're not near a QUALIFIED pro shop, avoid the wheels. If you can get the work done easily then give it a shot.

Paul
I'm glad we agree. :wink:

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Re: Compound Crossbows

Post by Carnivorous » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:04 pm

I appreciate both styles! :)
Both can put meat in the back of my Wagon! :)


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