OT: Canadain Firearm Buy Back Program

[Boo]

It is important that we, as firearms owners, create and maintain a presence. I pay into https://thegunblog.ca/category/news/ as well as https://www.taxpayer.com/
Both keep me up to date and bring attention to many inputs to the Feds to voice an opinion. Complacency will be our undoing. Get with the program. It isn’t going to happen without money and it doesn’t have to be a lot of money.

[Boo]

Here’s some good reading
https://www.gofundme.com/f/q8pv6c-overturn-the-unconstitutional-goc-gun-grab-2020

[janesy]

It is important that we, as firearms owners, create and maintain a presence. I pay into https://thegunblog.ca/category/news/ as well as https://www.taxpayer.com/
Both keep me up to date and bring attention to many inputs to the Feds to voice an opinion. Complacency will be our undoing. Get with the program. It isn’t going to happen without money and it doesn’t have to be a lot of money.

Further to that, until the gun owners start working together, we are doomed to continue this cycle.

Until the hunters start taking the long rangers and target shooters concerns seriously, and when the shotgunners start listening to the handgunners we are all left out to dry.
It's human nature to think it won't happen to you. Except it has been happening to us... just not the bolt action 270 crowd yet. How could it ever happen to them? Well, go over the list of shooters it has happened too, whos next... the bolt action and pump shotgun crowd.

Problem is, by then the hand gun and AR crowd will be long gone, and they will tell the pump gun crowd GFY, where we're you when we needed you??

[IronNoggin]

Alberta Blocks Trudeau’s Plan to Use RCMP as Gun-Confiscation Agents

https://thegunblog.ca/2022/09/26/alberta-blocks-trudeaus-plan-to-use-rcmp-as-gun-confiscation-agents/

Saskatchewan is sending out rather obvious signals it as about to follow this lead...

More to come...

Boo: Thanks for that link! Will pass around.

Cheers

[Boo]

Alberta Blocks Trudeau’s Plan to Use RCMP as Gun-Confiscation Agents

https://thegunblog.ca/2022/09/26/alberta-blocks-trudeaus-plan-to-use-rcmp-as-gun-confiscation-agents/

Saskatchewan is sending out rather obvious signals it as about to follow this lead...

More to come...

Boo: Thanks for that link! Will pass around.

Cheers

I donated. I want to keep them on a roll!

[Hi5]

Robert Freberg. (Canadian Sport Shooting Association/YouTube)
By CKOM News Staff
Sask. government pulling money away from federal gun buyback
Sep 28, 2022 | 11:46 AM

The Saskatchewan government is trying to put its foot down when it comes to guns.

In 2020, the federal government reclassified about 1,500 types of guns as prohibited and committed to implementing a buyback program. While there are indications that program is starting to be set up, Saskatchewan’s government is throwing up roadblocks.

According to the province’s chief firearms officer, Robert Freberg, the corrections, policing and public safety minister sent a letter to the RCMP on Tuesday indicating the province supports anti-crime initiatives that focus on the issues related to the criminal use of firearms and that prevent gang violence and address illegal or smuggled guns.

“However, we do not support initiatives that will impact law-abiding, RCMP-vetted hunters, sport shooters, ranchers, farmers and others who use firearms for lawful and good purposes,” Freberg told Gormley on Wednesday.



Therefore, Freberg said the provincial government has decided it won’t allow the use of provincial funds to administer and enforce the buyback program, which Freberg called a confiscation program.

“We’re saying this isn’t a priority to use our taxpayers’ dollars,” said Freberg.

According to the firearms officer, that means the RCMP will have to make some decisions going forward because the police services get more than $200 million from the provincial government for their policing operations in Saskatchewan.

He believes the RCMP would have to send federally funded resources into Saskatchewan, and he doesn’t believe that would happen.

[Hi5]

Once the Saskatchewan government speaks officially, hopefully Manitoba will be next. Maybe even Ontario, after all, this can be framed as a fiscal issue? Then questions in the House of Commons?

[IronNoggin]

Sask. government pulling money away from federal gun buyback

The Saskatchewan government is trying to put its foot down when it comes to guns.

In 2020, the federal government reclassified about 1,500 types of guns as prohibited and committed to implementing a buyback program. While there are indications that program is starting to be set up, Saskatchewan’s government is throwing up roadblocks.

According to the province’s chief firearms officer, Robert Freberg, the Ministry of Corrections, Policing and Public Safety sent a letter to the RCMP on Tuesday indicating the province supports anti-crime initiatives that focus on the issues related to the criminal use of firearms and that prevent gang violence and address illegal or smuggled guns.

“However, we do not support initiatives that will impact law-abiding, RCMP-vetted hunters, sport shooters, ranchers, farmers and others who use firearms for lawful and good purposes,” Freberg told Gormley on Wednesday.

Therefore, Freberg said the provincial government has decided it won’t allow the use of provincial funds to administer and enforce the buyback program, which Freberg called a confiscation program.

“We’re saying this isn’t a priority to use our taxpayers’ dollars,” said Freberg.

https://www.ckom.com/2022/09/28/sask-government-pulling-money-away-from-federal-gun-buyback/

[Boo]

Matt! I should have known, you beat me to it!

I hope everyone remains civil and does not start with the politics or poor behavior. It does a world of good to keep informative threads like this going! I have zero to do with moderation hear but I can tell you that the powers that be (not Peter) does not want politics injected into this forum. So to everyone concerned, please help in keeping this thread alive and not deleted.

[Boo]

Take note of the info in the red. It will cost you nothing to get on Ford's case. If you're in Ontario, get off your butt and send a comment encouraging Ford to say no. In my note to Ford, I told him that he can have the most valuable thing I own, my vote, if he does the right thing.
Absolutely do not think that this whole gun grab will end here is "they" win. It will go right down to registering and controlling our crossbows. While you may scoff at that, the federal Liberal government tried that a long time ago. Bill did not comply

September 29, 2022

Manitoba joins the party! - No Provincial Resources for Firearms Confiscations

On September 28, Kelvin Goertzen, Manitoba Minister of Justice and Attorney General, joined Alberta and Saskatchewan in stating that provincially-funded and grossly understaffed RCMP personnel will not pander to the federal Liberal government’s virtue-signalling agenda.

“We feel many aspects of the federal approach to gun crimes unnecessarily target lawful gun owners,” Minister Goertzen wrote, “while having little impact on criminals, who are unlikely to follow gun regulations in any event.”i

“In Manitoba’s view, any buy-back program cannot further erode precious provincial police resources, already suffering from large vacancy rates, from focusing on investigation of violent crime.”

Three provinces in three days are now on record stating they want their province’s contracted RCMP members focused on investigating violent crimes and the criminals who commit them, not playing collection agents for the Liberal government.

“We will be bringing these concerns,” Minister Goertzen wrote, “along with the shared concern of Saskatchewan and Alberta, directly to the federal government next month in meetings of Ministers of Justice and Ministers of Public Safety.”

Saskatchewan Public Safety Minister Christine Tell, Alberta Justice Minister Tyler Shandro and Manitoba Justice Minister Kelvin Goertzen are unequivocal in their positions.

Provincially-funded RCMP personnel and resources will not be removed from the very real job of protecting and defending public safety in order to pander to the Liberal government’s latest “gun control” whim.

These three provinces clearly comprehend what Justin Trudeau and his Liberal ship of fools do not: Focusing on federally-licensed, RCMP-vetted firearm owners while ignoring violent repeat offenders is ridiculous – deserving of ridicule – and will not be tolerated.

The CSSA thanks Minister Kelvin Goertzen and the entire Manitoba government for their forward-thinking, hard work, and dedication on behalf of the firearms owners of Manitoba.

The West is grateful for your support.

Doug Ford, where are you?

Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba’s refusal to assist Justin Trudeau’s Liberal government and his efforts to confiscate your legally-possessed property is a relief to prairie citizens - but they also show what’s possible.

We urge Ontario residents to contact the Hon. Doug Ford, Premier of Ontario, and politely encourage him to stand up for Ontarians and refuse to assist Ottawa’s gun confiscation efforts.

Ontario Provincial Police members are paid with Ontario tax dollars to serve Ontarians, not Ottawa’s lackeys.

When you write Premier Ford, consider including these points:
The May 1, 2020 gun ban by Order in Council did nothing to make Ontario safer
Confiscating firearms from licensed owners has no rational connection to any public safety goals
There is no evidence or public safety principle to support these actions
Their proposed confiscations are a disturbing use of billions of tax dollars for zero gain in public safety
Ottawa had no plan when they announced their virtue-signalling gun ban and they have no plan today to confiscate the private property of Ontarians.
Do not permit Justin Trudeau’s federal government to offload their misguided policies onto the backs of Ontarians
Do not permit Ottawa to force Ontarians to pay for its failures
Join Tyler Shandro, Alberta Minister of Justice, and Christine Tell, Saskatchewan Minister of Corrections, Policing and Public Safety and oppose Ottawa’s overreach and, in so doing, support and defend all Ontario firearm owners




Premier Doug Ford

Legislative Building

Queen's Park

Toronto ON M7A 1A1

Tel: 416-325-1941

Phone: [email protected]

https://www.ontario.ca/page/premier




Sources:



https://www.facebook.com/KelvingoertzenMLA



For more information, please contact:

Tony Bernardo, Executive Director
Canadian Shooting Sports Association
Email: [email protected]

[janesy]

Thank you Don. It is time Ontario forgets about Toronto and grows a pair. Email sent.

[Carnivorous]

Thanks for posting this Don. I belive Mr Ford will follow suit if enough of us nudge him in the right direction..

[Boo]

It appears that I motivated 2 people to email or send a message to Ford. Aside from messaging Ford, you guys should motivate 2 others each and tell them to motivate multiple others. You guys know how this works. Get the ball rolling!

Remember "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

[Hi5]

We must have some East Coasters who visit here. The folks there may be pretty busy cleaning up after the hurricane. However, this would be a good time for them to ponder whether Police resources should be diverted from real policing. Policing, such as protecting lives and property after a natural disaster, rather than a firearms collection deserve priority. Then, of course, there’s the rampage in Nova Scotia where NONE of the firearms involved would have been caught by any of current firearms confiscation. Do you want your police busy gathering up firearms from law abiding citizens?

East Coasters, you have good examples to follow. Contact your provincial leaders.

[Boo]

We must have some East Coasters who visit here. The folks there may be pretty busy cleaning up after the hurricane. However, this would be a good time for them to ponder whether Police resources should be diverted from real policing. Policing, such as protecting lives and property after a natural disaster, rather than a firearms collection deserve priority. Then, of course, there’s the rampage in Nova Scotia where NONE of the firearms involved would have been caught by any of current firearms confiscation. Do you want your police busy gathering up firearms from law abiding citizens?

East Coasters, you have good examples to follow. Contact your provincial leaders.

Unbelievable but true https://www.guns.com/news/2013/06/29/royal-canadian-mounted-police-confiscate-guns-from-town-residents-during-flood-video#:~:text=The%20Royal%20Canadian%20Mounted%20Police%20announced%20on%20Thursday,River%20in%20Alberta%2C%20Canada%2C%20due%20to%20severe%20flooding.
Cut and paste the whole thing as one.