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C.J. · Post by **C.J.** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:44 am

Can anyone tell me the situation with Venamous Snakes in Northern America,specifically around "ONTARIO".
Are they not a problem that far north,cos I never hear of any snake encounters here on the forum!
I have no fear of snakes,having once kept Boas & a Reticulated Python when I was younger & a lot stupider....."Kept Gettin Bit"but did'nt DIE!!!
Just wondering what I could expect to find in Ontarios Wilderness!!!

huntman · Post by **huntman** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:48 am

Here in the GTA up to about Sudbury i have only seen gardner and water snakes. I have heard of rattle snakes up near the sudbury closer to northeren ontario.

Digger · Post by **Digger** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:56 am

There is only one poisonous snake in Ontario, the massasuga
Lizards and Snakes of Ontario

Five-lined Skink
Eastern Garter Snake
Red-sided Garter Snake
Northern Ribbon Snake
Butler's Garter Snake
Northern Water Snake
Lake Erie Water Snake
Queen Snake
Redbelly Snake
Brown Snake
Eastern Smooth Green Snake
Northern Ringneck Snake
Eastern Hognose Snake
Black Rat Snake
Eastern Fox Snake
Eastern Milk Snake
Blue Racer
Massasauga Rattlesnake
Timber Rattlesnake ( not seen in Ontario for years)

Eastern Massasauga Rattlesnake ~ Sistrurus catenatus catenatus
Description:

50 - 70 cm
gray with a row of brown-black markings down the back and alternating blotches down the sides
nine enlarged scales on the top of the head
rattle on the tip of the tail

Habitat:

wetland environments such as marshes, bogs, swamps, but is also found in dry upland areas in summer

Conservation concerns, distribution and status:

has disappeared from most of southwestern Ontario because of habitat loss and human persecution; still present in more remote areas on the Bruce Peninsula and southeastern Georgian Bay
officially designated as Threatened in Ontario and Canada

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A.W · Post by **A.W** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:57 am

A few years ago I was in Caledon by the Forks of the Credit. It was a sunny day and I was walking along a trail back to my car.

I saw this snake laying in the middle of the trail suning it's self and I gave it a poke with my rod. This snake came right at me and I did a "tactical retreat". It sur looked like a Massasauga Rattlesnake and I found out later that you can still find the odd one in Southern Ontario.

C.J. · Post by **C.J.** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:56 pm

WHAT CAN I SAY "DIGGER" SNAKES,WOLVERINES YOU ARE ONE

KNOWLEDGEABLE DUDE!!!!!!!

Golden Eagle · Post by **Golden Eagle** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:52 pm

We have that snake here too. the Eastern massuwhatever but is is very rare. We mostly have the Timbeeer rattler and copperhead and some diamond backs. I hate em. Mostly north of me in the mountain area.

franklinm · Post by **franklinm** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:34 pm

Gent`s we have some here to , I ran into one this morning a cotten mouth moccssin , I hate those they are mean . And they are hard to see early in the morning going to your stand .

Adrian J Hare · Post by **Adrian J Hare** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:47 pm

I think the only good snake , is a died snake

...BT

Digger · Post by **Digger** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:34 pm

I like snakes myself, they want nothing to do with humans and won't strike unless you step on it or you try to annoy it. If it were not for snakes eating rodents and other pests vermin would overrun everything. Just watch where you are going and step around them.

maple · Post by **maple** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:24 am

C.J.

Never seen a poisonous snake in Ontario, ever.

Although there are some rattlers in the Bruce Penninsula, they are even rare there. The odd garter snake you come across in the rest of Ontario are harmless and small. Not nearly big enough to scare you. Kinda pretty really. I used to have a whole collection of them as a kid.

If I was concerned about something dangerous in these woods, I'd learn how to identify poison ivy.

Maple

Hoss · Post by **Hoss** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:42 am

Down here where its warm we have plenty nasty biters...my dog got hit by a copperhead last week. I was stackin wood at the back of my property. I had just been where she was and she was jumpin and dartin at it, I didnt even see it..she barked lookin at me as if to come look and Dang..a big ole copperhead. dead now! they dont work to good without a head

..her face swelled a little but by morning she was fine. It aint the first time..Them dame copperheads are a nusiance.overrated at most. Its those cottonmouths and rattlesnakes I look out for..In western Okla where Terry 1 lives hes got big Rattlesnakes to look out for, snakeboots are a must...He said you get bit out where hes at you best just enjoy what your doing right there. no time time to get help..

I need to go snake huntin up there..

C.J. · Post by **C.J.** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:33 pm

HOSS,
That's the whole reason that I'm looking "NORTH OF THE BORDER"
Just watched a documentary on Reported Snake Attacks in one of those hot US regions....NEVADA....I think it was!!!!
Them

Rattlers are seriously BAD FOR ONE'S HEALTH!!!!!!
One Guy was laid up for 8-weeks in a hospital bed,fighting for his life....his hand all swoll up like a WATERMELON.....SWOLL ??? That is how you guys say it RIGHT!!!!

.....

Anyway this guy lived,and came back to the centre that treated him to thank everyone,and the doctor showed him the video of himself strapped to the bed,convulsing .....and he broke down in tears.
This guy could'nt believe he was looking at himself,he was just so

that......THE MAN IN THE BIG HOUSE was'nt ready for him YET!!!!!!

Hoss · Post by **Hoss** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:34 pm

here ya go fellas now this here is a snake....this bad boy would lay ya up a few days. best wear snake boots early dove season..Now the story I got was this biggun was found north of muskogee a bit, by some fellas huntin on sept 1st for dove. This diamondback rattler was spry and full of piss and vinager! 6ft long and I never got the wieght..I would wear snake boots till it got plenty cold..My huntin buddy was scoutin in sept last year down in the Kaw forest and he stepped over a log where one like this was layin...It never moved..

that morning was a little cool so mabey he was too..[img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/ ... ttler2.jpg[/img] [/img]

A.W · Post by **A.W** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:36 pm

Hoss. Your link is not working.

Hoss · Post by **Hoss** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:40 pm

There ya go AW I was workin on it..

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