Would you like more accuracy from your Excalibur?

designer 2 · Post by **designer 2** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:47 am

Just curious here.
What would you think if you could get a 1/2 to 3/4 inch group at 60 yards with a HUNTING arrow that has a cutting diameter of just over 1-3/16"?
Would you want that?
Please, this question is for customers only.
Thanks

TYE · Post by **TYE** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:49 am

What are you getting at?

designer 2 · Post by **designer 2** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:52 am

Tye:

Do you get that accuracy now?

TYE · Post by **TYE** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:54 am

No because I'm using the fibre optic pin sights. I can put 5 arrows into a circle the size of a popcan though. I'm sure when I have the Varizone scope I will be knocking the centers out of twoonies.

designer 2 · Post by **designer 2** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:57 am

Are you saying you can do that with a broadhead tipped arrow at 60 yards?
Or a target tip?

Hi5 · Post by **Hi5** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:01 pm

You must be implying a new broadhead being used. That's a larger than normal cut.

I personally would like a larger cut. The bows I use have the power to drive through a larger cutting head. When I raised that as a desirable effect...a wider cut.... several people here said it couldn't be done without sacrificing accuracy. Wind planing was said to be the problem.

Back to you.

designer 2 · Post by **designer 2** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:04 pm

Hi5

Normally, larger cutting heads do wind plane. What about an arrow that is only 6" long where the blades are the fletching? Arrows are 400-500 grains total weight.

TYE · Post by **TYE** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:12 pm

designer 2 wrote:Are you saying you can do that with a broadhead tipped arrow at 60 yards?
Or a target tip?

Oh, not 60 yards. I meant 30 yards. I won't shoot past that anyways. In my opinion you have to be a moron to shoot a deer from 60 yards.

designer 2 · Post by **designer 2** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:15 pm

I agree that you would be a moron to shoot at an animal at 60 yards. If you have that kind of accuracy, what's going to happen when you shoot at 30?

The Pistoleer · Post by **The Pistoleer** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:21 pm

Interesting concept

. I had thought of putting cutting blades just ahead of the fetching to aid in pass through, but never doing away with fetching entirely.

Would these bolts be able to be used on current production Excaliburs?

To answer your question, I have no idea what type of groups I could get with broadheads at 60 yards because I have never shot one that far.

Referring to a previous post about 50 yard broad side shots you will understand my feeling that even if you can hit a 1/2 spot everytime at 60 yards no matter how fast the arrow/bolt is the deer can take one step while browsing undisturbed which would put the arrow 10" or so from the point of aim.

Still I am interested in your idea because a shorter more accurate bolt which still maintains it's weight would appear to be a good thing.

Pete

designer 2 · Post by **designer 2** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:24 pm

How do you post a picture? I'll show you

Hi5 · Post by **Hi5** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:29 pm

The shorter bolt should give less wind deflection. There should be more pass throughs on big game...in other words, better penetration.

designer 2 · Post by **designer 2** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:35 pm

Hi5

You are correct. Standard bolt loses about 5 fps of speed every ten yards. The 6" arrow loses only 1 fps every ten yards.

TYE · Post by **TYE** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:36 pm

designer 2 wrote:How do you post a picture? I'll show you

Go to www.photobucket.com and make an account and upload the picture to it and post the little [IMG] code under the picture when its uploaded.

GaryL · Post by **GaryL** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:43 pm

Do think that type of bolt has been around....

So far have neve seen it used....send me the pic. I will post it if ya want....

I still would not take that long of shot innless I was starving