Fletching help.

[pphoenix]

I just got a Arizona EZ jig, right helical carbon, some bohning killer vanes, bohning fletch tite and even a vane remover.
Anyways did one of my arrows that needed a new look and it didn't turn out to bad.
A friend had 7 that needed to be refletched, to i had something to practised with, anyways two of them had to be done twice and one of them the peeled off when we tryed them out today, they are grouping good so alignment isn't a problem.
I stripped old ones, used a super Degooper by circa 1850, to remove old glue, and even gave some of them a light sanding, finding the right amount of glue seems to be one of the tricks.
I know that some off you have the same jig, so i would like to know how you old buggers are doing it.

[the elf]

Well this old bugger-------gave up on his E Z Fletch and went to a JO JAN multi -fletch-------- ------- much happier ------ the new ezfletch to me was a major p.i.t.a Gary`s video makes it look so easy-----well it might be if you don`t have Arthritis in your hands or fingers. Elf.

[pokynojoe]

I have an EZ fletch, for carbons here's what I do:

Wipe them off with Denatured Alchohol;

1) Then I use wraps(I got a whole bunch real cheap), just enough wrap to extend about 1/4" past whatever size fletching I use. Then just use fletch-tite. Currently I'm using either 2"Blazers or 2" Predators. I kind of like the Predators a little better.

or:
2) If I don't use wraps, then I just fletch with Loctite Super Glue Gel(very thin bead), they don't come off.

Hope this helps

Joe

[pphoenix]

I used the bohning stripper to remove the old vanes and then scrapped all the glue that i could with it, i then with the degooper gave it a good wipe with a piece of cloth, and in some a little sanding, i think they are clean and the sanding add some rough areas for the glue to penetrate.
I tried differente amounts of glue, not enough they came out, to much and it bubblus out the sides of the vanes.
I don't know maybe it's from the jig like "the elf" just mentioned.
And here is that video from Gary.

[Rich]

I use Goat Tuff glue and never have a problem with the vanes falling off.

Rich

[GaryL]

Reads like maybe, just maybe you are not getting the shafts clean enough also read CARBON AZ fletcher so I am thinking you are doing the smaller shafts if this is the case clean the vanes and shafts, use super glue jell and you should be good.

If you are doing standard carbon/alum shafts 21xx,22xx and so on, then you need the standard AZ fletcher for the 22xx shafts. Clean shafts good, clean vane base good and then super glue jell and should have no problems with the arrows.


elf sorry about the Arthritis in your hands or fingers, I would figure a clamp would be a lot easier to use and line up the vane/feather. The JO JO is a supe nice jig. ....

[curmudgeon]

Well this old bugger set aside his Bitzenberger for a time and went to Extreme Shrink Fletch product. Surprizeingly for me you simply slide on the sleeve containing three 4 inch duravanes and dip it to shrink on the shaft in HOT water. Not boiling, but I found the longer you leave it submersed the tighter it shrinks. I like it. The only thing you won't have is any degree of offset or helical but only straight vanes. They have a web site you may want to look at. I even used it on Tapered carbon/graphite shafts. It works great and the Xbow top hold down spring rests on the sleeve, not the shaft.

[the elf]

Gary------I got a real super deal on my JoJam---the bowshop I go to ----- bought out another small shop and had all kinds of stuff-----I lucked out and was there at the right time.I like it so much--I think I will buy a single--it is smaller and for single fletch repairs will take up a lot less room.It is easier to use for sure.---------Lon.

[pphoenix]

Gary L, the arrows that i'm doing are for a compound bow, should have i gotten the standard EZ, i guess that would be a problem since i already paid the 60 bucks for it, and already have some glue on it.

[wabi]

I've found with regular Fletch-Tite glue adhesion on carbon or aluminum shafts can be a real problem sometimes. I've use acetone, alcohol, MEK, water, and even thought of trying a few things I can't list on a public forum. The last batch I tried was some old 2215 aluminums I cut down to crossbow length. Carefully buffed them with fine steel wool, then cleaned them with acetone. Fletched 6 arrows and the feathers literally fell off the next day when I touched them!
I love the old Fletch-Tite as I've been using it for many years on wood shafts using feathers with never a problem. I finally gave up on guessing if the next arrow was going to fletch or not and started dipping or crest wrapping all my arrows. Haven't had any problems with either method in a little over a year of doing them this way. And the 6 arrows the vanes fell off of - I crest dipped them in Fletch-Lac and the problem was cured!
I've used other glues (Goat-Tuff for one) and had fewer problems, but if you're old and set in your ways (like me) the Fletch-Tite is still good glue. It just requires some extra work (crest wrap or dip) with carbons or aluminums to be sure it is going to hold the fletching.

[GaryL]

Yup I like Fletch-Tite for feathers and I also go to DrugMart and in hobby section I get some plastic glue tips, they fit over the tip on the Fletch-Tite tube and let you lay a very small bead of glue.

[Steve Craig]

Just get a can of spray lacquer and spray the area to be fletched. Then fletch as normal with the Fletch tite. Great adhesion, and no dipping.

[pphoenix]

After giving them a try yesterday and today 7 of the 8 arrows are still good, and the 8th arrow only one vane came out.

[A.W]

I scrape the glue off with an exacto-knife then clean with alcohol.

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[sumner4991]

Anybody used the AZ EZ to put on 2" Blazer vanes? I read where the AZ EZ didn't do a good job with the 2" Blazers . . .true?