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reloading 44mag

Post by M&M » Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:36 pm

do any of you reload for 44mag I do and have for quite a few years but have always used jacketed bullets and have shot the 270 grn gold dot out of my tc encore for quite a while now, this year I shot a doe at 30yds and I hit her a just a little farther back than I should have, my fault kinda rushed the shot I guess but after a short tracking job I found her and had to put another round in her, the thing I was dissapointed with was the penetraton of the bullet, I want a complete pass through if at all possible so after some research I have decided on a gas checked hard cast lead bullet with a wide flat nose in around 300 gr or so, I found that oregon trail makes one a 310 gr that has gotten great reviews for penetration on big game even on buffalo so I ordered some from midway to try so if anyone has any experience with this bullet and any load recipies they are willing to share as I havent found any load data for this bullet yet, and before you ask no I dont think there is such a thing as overkill dead is dead and this should be a good bullet for any other large game I may choose to hunt
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Re: reloading 44mag

Post by munch » Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:52 pm

got to love ohio .we can't leave our house in canada with a handgun if not going to a gun club.i still have dies for 44 but have not loaded any for years..i was in a gun shop in akron years ago shooting an uzi in there indoor range and talking gun laws with the guys that worked there they could not beleive they could not hunt moose in ontario with an fn 308 auto.they also said at that time in ohio you could hunt tree rats with a 50 cal center fire if you wanted
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Re: reloading 44mag

Post by Boo » Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:28 pm

I like a full load of 296 Winchester.
Years ago one of my hunting buddies shot a mulie doe broadside with a 210 gr XTP out of a S&W at over 75 yds and the bullet was found perfectly mushroomed, bulging on the offside so it does not make sense that your bullet did not pass through unless there was something wrong with your bullet or load.
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Re: reloading 44mag

Post by SPITFIRE » Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:42 pm

I have a ruger red hawk 44 magnum 6" barrel and have taken quite a few deer with it. I use a 240 grain hard cast semi wad cutter bullet designed by Elmer Keith. I use a lyman bullet mold number 429421 and every deer I shot I never lost one and every bullet went clear threw. I am very happy with this bullet.
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Re: reloading 44mag

Post by chessy » Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:42 pm

i shoot a ruger deer field 44mag i use 240 xtp bullet .. i have killed deer out to 138 yards dead.. i relaod using imr 4227 with great success

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Re: reloading 44mag

Post by Riflemanz » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:47 am

I have a marlin 1894 44mag rifle.Its a great little brush gun[easy to carry thru the woods] I shot a doe with my handloaded 300gr XTP.I placed the shot just behind her shoulder,she jumped 15' in the air on the shot and piles up 10yds away.I was using W296.
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Re: reloading 44mag

Post by bkisel » Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:10 am

My brother who has 35 years or so reloading experience does my 240 gr HC gas checked .44 mags and 44 specials (not certain of bullet weight). Next time I email or speak with him I'll ask him about 300 grain loads. Are you looking for a mild, medium or hot load?

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Re: reloading 44mag

Post by pokynojoe » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:25 am

M&M wrote:if anyone has any experience with this bullet and any load recipies they are willing to share as I havent found any load data for this bullet yet, and before you ask no I dont think there is such a thing as overkill dead is dead and this should be a good bullet for any other large game I may choose to hunt
Why don't you just call Laser-cast? Here's a link to their website:

http://www.laser-cast.com/

It's a good bullet, especially on hogs, haven't used it for deer. Please don't take offense but from time to time we all need to be reminded of one of the CARDINAL rules of handloading: Only use data from reliable published sources. The industry is concerned about the rise in accidents to people using unverifiable data distributed over the internet.

Also, another good source is John Taffin's book on the .44.

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Re: reloading 44mag

Post by M&M » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:28 pm

thanks joe i brought up their web site and sent them an email requesting load data I am sure they should have some available
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Warning: Bullet selections are specific, and loads are not valid with substitutions of different bullets of the same weight. Variations in bullet length will alter net case capacity, pressure and velocity. Primer selection is specific and primer types are not interchangeable. These are maximum loads in my firearms and may easily be excessive in others. All loads should be reduced by 10%, and developed following safe handloading practices as represented in established reloading manuals produced by component manufacturers. Presentation of these loads does not constitute a solicitation for their use, nor a recommendation.

Cartridge: .44 Remington Magnum - Double Action Revolver

Firearm: Taurus Model 44 Revolver Max COL: 1.610" *
Barrel: 4" Reloading Dies: Lee Deluxe Pistol
Max case length: .1.285" Group distance: 25 yards**
Notes: *Maximum possible COL used is 1.725". ** 2.0 - 3.5" shot from sandbag rest.


Bullet Type Bullet
Weight Bullet
Diameter C.O.L. Net Water
Capacity Powder
Type Charge Primer
Type Muzzle
Velocity Muzzle
Energy Group
Size
Remington SJHP 180 0.430 1.600 30.2 H110 29.0 CCI 350 1460 852 **
Remington SJHP 180 0.430 1.600 30.2 H110 31.5 CCI 350 1598 1021 **
Remington SJHP 180 0.430 1.600 30.2 Li'l Gun 29.0 CCI 350 1478 873 **
Remington SJHP 180 0.430 1.600 30.2 Li'l Gun 31.5 CCI 350 1638 1073 **
Remington SJHP 180 0.430 1.600 30.2 AA 9 24.0 CCI 350 1550 960 **
Remington SJHP 180 0.430 1.600 30.2 AA 9 25.0 CCI 350 1599 1022 **
Remington SJHP 180 0.430 1.600 30.2 2400 24.0 CCI 350 1414 799 **
Remington SJHP 180 0.430 1.600 30.2 2400 25.0 CCI 350 1498 897 **
Hornady XTP/HP 240 0.430 1.600 26.6 H110 24.5 CCI 350 1303 905 **
Hornady XTP/HP 240 0.430 1.600 26.6 H110 25.0 CCI 350 1330 943 **
Hornady XTP/HP 240 0.430 1.600 26.6 Li'l Gun 22.0 CCI 350 1258 844 **
Hornady XTP/HP 240 0.430 1.600 26.6 Li'l Gun 23.0 CCI 350 1280 873 **
Hornady XTP/HP 240 0.430 1.600 26.6 AA 9 20.5 CCI 350 1324 934 **
Hornady XTP/HP 240 0.430 1.600 26.6 AA 9 21.6 CCI 350 1366 995 **
Hornady XTP/HP 240 0.430 1.600 26.6 Enforcer 21.0 CCI 350 1172 732 **
Hornady XTP/HP 240 0.430 1.600 26.6 Enforcer 22.0 CCI 350 1280 873 **
Remington SJHP 240 0.430 1.600 24.8 H110 25.0 CCI 350 1323 933 **
Remington SJHP 240 0.430 1.600 24.8 H110 25.5 CCI 350 1366 995 **
Remington SJHP 240 0.430 1.600 24.8 Li'l Gun 21.5 CCI 350 1251 834 **
Remington SJHP 240 0.430 1.600 24.8 Li'l Gun 22.5 CCI 350 1261 848 **
Remington SJHP 240 0.430 1.600 24.8 2400 20.0 CCI 350 1242 822 **
Remington SJHP 240 0.430 1.600 24.8 2400 20.5 CCI 350 1306 909 **
Remington SJHP 240 0.430 1.600 24.8 AA 9 20.0 CCI 350 1325 936 **
Remington SJHP 240 0.430 1.600 24.8 AA 9 20.2 CCI 350 1325 936 **
Remington SJHP 240 0.430 1.600 24.8 Enforcer 21.0 CCI 350 1228 804 **
Remington SJHP 240 0.430 1.600 24.8 Enforcer 22.0 CCI 350 1296 895 **
Speer Gold Dot HP 270 0.429 1.585 23.3 H110 23.0 CCI 350 1254 943 **
Speer Gold Dot HP 270 0.429 1.585 23.3 H110 23.8 CCI 350 1280 983 **
Speer Gold Dot HP 270 0.429 1.585 23.3 Li'l Gun 19.5 CCI 350 1142 782 **
Speer Gold Dot HP 270 0.429 1.585 23.3 Li'l Gun 22.0 CCI 350 1292 1001 **
Speer Gold Dot HP 270 0.429 1.585 23.3 2400 18.5 CCI 350 1190 849 **
Speer Gold Dot HP 270 0.429 1.585 23.3 2400 19.0 CCI 350 1209 877 **
Speer Gold Dot HP 270 0.429 1.585 23.3 AA 9 18.0 CCI 350 1158 804 **
Speer Gold Dot HP 270 0.429 1.585 23.3 AA 9 18.8 CCI 350 1195 856 **
Speer Gold Dot HP 270 0.429 1.585 23.3 Enforcer 20.0 CCI 350 1175 828 **
Speer Gold Dot HP 270 0.429 1.585 23.3 Enforcer 20.5 CCI 350 1180 835 **
Sierra JSP 300 0.429 1.725 23.4 H110 20.0 CCI 350 1148 878 **
Sierra JSP 300 0.429 1.725 23.4 H110 20.8 CCI 350 1209 974 **
Sierra JSP 300 0.429 1.725 23.4 Li'l Gun 16.5 CCI 350 1072 766 **
Sierra JSP 300 0.429 1.725 23.4 Li'l Gun 17.7 CCI 350 1101 808 **
Sierra JSP 300 0.429 1.725 23.4 2400 16.5 CCI 350 1082 780 **
Sierra JSP 300 0.429 1.725 23.4 2400 17.2 CCI 350 1067 759 **
Sierra JSP 300 0.429 1.725 23.4 AA 9 16.2 CCI 350 1066 757 **
Sierra JSP 300 0.429 1.725 23.4 AA 9 16.8 CCI 350 1085 784 **
Sierra JSP 300 0.429 1.725 23.4 Enforcer 17.5 CCI 350 1067 759 **
Sierra JSP 300 0.429 1.725 23.4 Enforcer 18.5 CCI 350 1105 814 **
Hornady XTP/HP 300 0.430 1.600 18.3 H110 21.5 CCI 350 1136 860 **
Hornady XTP/HP 300 0.430 1.600 18.3 H110 22.5 CCI 350 1154 887 **
Hornady XTP/HP 300 0.430 1.600 18.3 Li'l Gun 17.6 CCI 350 1040 721 **
Hornady XTP/HP 300 0.430 1.600 18.3 Li'l Gun 18.5 CCI 350 1123 840 **
Hornady XTP/HP 300 0.430 1.600 18.3 2400 17.5 CCI 350 1125 843 **
Hornady XTP/HP 300 0.430 1.600 18.3 2400 18.0 CCI 350 1143 871 **
Hornady XTP/HP 300 0.430 1.600 18.3 AA 9 17.0 CCI 350 1046 729 **
Hornady XTP/HP 300 0.430 1.600 18.3 AA 9 17.6 CCI 350 1130 851 **
Hornady XTP/HP 300 0.430 1.600 18.3 Enforcer 19.0 CCI 350 1082 780 **
Hornady XTP/HP 300 0.430 1.600 18.3 Enforcer 19.6 CCI 350 1159 895 **
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