Actually Rancid, you had hoped to spin your magic words of wisdom on a crossbow forum, but judging from the lack of support, I think, personally, you may have barked up the wrong tree. The more you post, the less genuine you and your WBH is.
In an effort to get the truth about the WBH, I cruised your site.....
Great site if you are a "bowhunter". Other than that, alot of hate, rage and anger towards other hunters, and forms of hunting.
Truly sad bunch.....I would suggest your lack of members is directly related to the hardline stance the WBH has against every other form of hunting in the stae of Wisconsin.
Oh, and for the record, it cracks me up you had/ have to hire a lobbyist to peddle your wares....
So, I found this stuff on your site......its entertaining to say the least.....
Question #86 in this year’s Spring Questionnaire requests lowering the age for those that can use crossbows during the archery season to 55 years old.
This question is another attempt by a few people promoting crossbows to expand their use in Wisconsin by forcing them further into the archery season. It’s a bad idea for several reasons.
• First of all, the question is worded to suggest that it’s for those 55 to 65 with medical infirmities, but goes on to allow crossbows for everyone in this age group, most of whom are fortunately, very healthy. In fact, crossbow use for everyone over 65 was never voted on or supported by the public. It was secretly attached to another bill in 2001 by a lame-duck politician and passed even though Wisconsin already had, and still has, much better laws that allow for crossbow use by those that are actually handicapped and deserve the advantage, regardless of their age.
• In 2005 there was an attempt to expand this advantage to any age, which was just a way of saying crossbows for everyone during archery season. The sportsmen and women of Wisconsin spoke clearly in response to that question and overwhelmingly defeated it at the 2005 Spring Hearings in 68 of 72 counties by over a 2 to 1 margin, statewide. This year’s question is nothing more than another attempt to incrementally do the same thing.
• Since we voted it down in 2005, it’s only got worse for those trying to push crossbows into archery seasons. Most significantly, it is now clear that modern crossbow performance is no longer anything like that of archery equipment. The PSE TAC 15, one of several new crossbows, is part AR15 assault rifle, and boasts 1 inch groups at 100 yards. It produces over 3 times more kinetic energy at 100 yards than a modern compound bow does at 10 feet!
• Since 2005 we have also seen what happened in southern states like Georgia and Tennessee that changed their archery seasons to allow crossbows - with the promise of big increases in hunter recruitment and retention (and revenue). It didn’t happen. License sales for their combined seasons actually declined from the initial archery-only numbers, as some hunter simply switched to the easier weapon and others just quit.
• Millions have been spent by the crossbow industry to force crossbows into archery seasons instead of promoting their use in rifle, shotgun, muzzleloader, pistol, or even dedicated crossbow seasons. And while early on, they convinced a few states with serious deer problems; most states, like Wisconsin have said NO to crossbows in archery seasons except for the handicapped or elderly.
In Wisconsin and across the country, license sales are declining for most hunting opportunities – except bowhunting. Why? Bowhunting is growing because it isn’t about getting a deer as expediently as possible. It’s just the opposite; bowhunters intentionally hunt by restricted rules just to put more “hunt” into “hunting”. Bowhunting is about the challenge of developing hunting skills and waiting for the quarry to come within range of a short-range weapon that is dependent on the archer’s own strength and skill to operate successfully - at the exquisitely intense moments leading up to the shot. Crossbows remove much of that challenge and would change our archery season to still another hunting season that is struggling to retain participants. If someone is looking for a faster or less challenging way to harvest deer, Wisconsin already provides plenty of those opportunities. Why would we even consider screwing-up one of our greatest ongoing success stories to support the few people that are pushing for this change?
• And with the deer herd declining across the state, why would we want to expand the use of this highly effective weapon over a long season, at a time when we need to restrict or reduce the deer harvest in many areas?
Please vote NO on question #86 Thank You!
And This is from an Administrator on the forum......I think dude is paraniod!!!!!
Dick, WBH Directors meetings are closed in light of recent advice that we hold them in closed session. Here is why.
ALL WBH members are encouraged to attend the members portion of the directors meetings. Simply contact the office at least 7 days in advance with your name and the issue you want to discuss and you will have the full attention of the board at the beginning of the meeting. The WBH board of Directors will next meet on June 12, 2010 (most likely in Stevens Point)
Before I go any further, I must inform you that there are those (people and other orgs) out there that mean to do real harm to WBH. Two, newly formed Wisconsin crossbow orgs, the animal rights folks and others that hope to harm WBH and Bowhunting are out there right now. I am asking for you to accept this reality. If you do not think such a thing is taking place, the rest of what I'm going to say won't make any sense.
WBH is a corporation with a board of directors and executive officers with real interests and assets to protect. There are those that seek to harm WBH and for the low low price of $20, these folks used to be able to attend the meetings of the board and have a front row seat and a copy of our play book in matters of strategy. During meetings of the board, there are those matters that are not to be made public because they may be of a legal, legislative or strategic nature. Many times, there are certain strategies discussed by a board that are private to the board of directors, not to exclude the members but simply to protect the corporation. Allowing this info into the hands of those I have previously mentioned weakens WBH and puts us at risk but again, you have to be willing to accept that such people are out there trying to harm WBH in hopes of causing us to fail.
Secondly, the board of directors bears a fiduciary burden that the members do not. The board of directors has obligations that the members (especially those I have previously mentioned) do not. People bent on harming WBH have no obligation to tell the truth and are able to leave a directors meeting with info they can use to thwart WBH actions. They could make false or misleading or harmful statements to the public (as recently happened). They could contact the legislature as a WBH member and state WBH policy and stances in an effort to influence legislation and go to the web to (as just recently happened) to spread bogus information that would put WBH at risk which would of course cost money to correct and defend. This is nothing new and has already happened.
There are WBH members that have joined solely to gain access into the anti-crossbow strategy WBH discusses at directors meetings or to find ways to attack us from an anti-hunting standpoint. Having them sitting in on discussions of legal and legislative strategy simply by virtue of holding a WBH membership card exposes us. There is actually espionage within these sorts of organizations. I will openly admit that I hold membership in certain orgs that I dislike and disagree with for the sole reason of gaining insight and information into what these orgs are doing so as to better protect WBH. I will tell you that I am excluded from their board of directors meetings for just such a reason.
Since it is impossible to see into a person's heart and know if they are a patriot of the association or an enemy, it is in the best interest of the association to put policies in place to limit their ability to do harm. In doing so, it has the effect of preventing good members from attending. This is a reality. (it's always the few bad apples that spoil it for everybody).
Under the advice of an attorney, we have allowed a members forum at the beginning of all meetings of the board. After that, the meeting of directors are in closed session. Those that will not accept that there are people trying to harm WBH will no doubt be suspicious and assume some sort of conspiracy theory thinking this is was done to exclude the good members who have the best interest of WBH in mind. I can assure you that is not the case at all.
Nova Scotia Association of Crossbow Hunters.