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Woody Williams
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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by Woody Williams » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:56 pm

VERY well said Christo..

You're right - To me the present day WBH is just a "whats in it for us" type of organization..

Pity that such an organization still exists today..
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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by awshucks » Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:35 pm

Well, got a few years on you, Bob. I started out w/ a 25# lemonwood stick bow when I was about 8 yrs old in '55 or so. Neither my parents nor myself could even string it, my aunt did it as she worked w/ the Scouts and their archery program.

Arrows were $0.35 @ or 'three for a buck' at the local Piggly Wiggly store. My allowance was $1.00 per week. I'd go through every arrow in the display while Ma shopped for the weekly grub, lol.

Between getting down on my knees looking for them under the grass and wiping baseboards for that $1.00, I'm amazed my knees aren't worse than they are now. I shot right handed while having a left master eye.

I managed to take a few deer w/ a recurve while in my 20's, but every shot at one was preceeded by the same prayer, lol.

1st shots w/ a compound were in the late '80's, buddy had an 'over-draw' setup. I put 5 in a group the size of a coffee cup at 25 yds [not the bull] but wasn't interested in them, wouldn't shoot a bhead behind my hand. Loved the advantage those sights gave me, even right handed.
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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by awshucks » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:12 pm

You're taking me WAAAAY back. I had my Ma trained to pull a Tide box on the clothes line so I could practice for pheasants, didn't know of 'flu-flu's in those days!

I once built a tunnel to where the ducks would feed every eve in a corn field behind the barn w/ rebar fence posts for elec. fences and bailing twine off hay bales the old man would loop over braces in barn when 'we' fed the 40 head of cattle hay, then covered w/ picked corn stalks.. Seemed 5 miles long back then, but was probably under 100 yds by todays measure, lol. Ended up gigging a drake mallard and watched him fly off w/ $0.35 worth of arrow hanging out of him.

I eventually decided I needed 'more power, Capt' so built my own bow from osage orange w/ arrow shafts from center of a lilac bush. Cut down fired paper .410 shells and used kernals of corn, Elmers glue to fab 'blunts'. Got a few rabbits and doves w/ that rig. I was a tweaker at a young age, lol.

Archery has changed more in our lifetimes than the last several thousand years. Sometimes, I lament the fact that today's kids are missing out on the high points of our youth.

Sorry to get so far O/T and we still have sling shots and BB guns to do, lol.
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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by Jim C » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:09 pm

Nothing bothers me more than the arrogance of some people wo whine that their form of archery is "holier" than others. Especially people shooting high let off wheel bows with mechanical releases. These jerks who want to ban or exclude crossbows are the worst of the lot--I rank them below PETA because they are traitors to the pro hunting cause.

And before the WBH guy starts ranting I am Olympic recurve archer who has won the Ohio overall recurve trophy Six times, 8 regional medals and a national bronze. I have coached several national recurve champions including the current Cadet NTC Sean Curtin, and NFAA recurve Champions, Daniel McLaughlin (world Junior team) Ian Coombe and ladies 50+ Indoor and outdoor BB (no sights no stabilizers) champion-my wife Liz. I also am the coach of the current #1 ranked Crossbow archer in North America.

Anyone who whines that Xbow archery is not archery is not worthy to be in the woods as far as I am concerned
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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by awshucks » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:07 pm

Big vote coming to lower the legal age in Wi to 55 from 65. WBH is dead set against this. Much like NJBH last year [internal survey about split down the middle] ad naseum.

Here's a cut and paste job on their numbers in Wi. Kudo's to
Rancid Crabtree,[AKA: "Archer" on CBN] WBH officer, as posted on Wi Bowsite

Just so you know, WBH is a Corporation, registered with the state. I am unaware that WBH has ever been a "Club" It may have started that way some 70 years ago but that is no longer the case. also, WBH is seeing a slight growth and hovers around 6,500. Those 500 that you left off with a ~ would want me to inform you of that.

I wonder if you would do me the favor of explaining how the votes of those members at the annual meetings that helped set the stance on baiting neutrality are impacting non-member bowhunters? By it's very definition, neutrality is just that. You will also want to know that there were 257,346 bowhunters in 2009. There has not been ~225, 000 bowhunters since 1993.

>3%
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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by Riflemanz » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:53 am

Did you get your anti-crossbow sticker?
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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by Riflemanz » Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:20 pm

Was TenPoint there?
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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by awshucks » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:56 pm

rancid crabtree wrote:Yes, two booths down from the Wisconsin Traditional Archers Booth and across from a vendor selling long bows (Dwyers) Parker was there as well but every time I looked, there was nobody stopping at their booth. PSE was there with the TAC-15. I thanked them for being there. We sent plenty a visitor over there to see what a right proper AR-15 assault rifles looks like converted to a bowhunting tool. :D
Be sure to tell them next time about Pete Shipley taking a mulie at 106 yds w/ an X-Force and posting the vid on YouTube.

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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by Woody Williams » Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:57 pm

rancid crabtree wrote:It was good to meet you on Saturday, as well as seeing the WI chapter chief of the American Crossbow Federation and ACG head Dan Hendricks at the deer expo. You will want to know that I laid down 30 hard earned dollars and joined the ACF on Sunday. :D As did 2 of my associates.
LOL.

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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by Woody Williams » Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:54 am

I was told that Wisconsin bowhunters set a harvest record this last season.

How much more "rebound" is needed?
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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by agingcrossbower » Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:25 pm

Woody Williams wrote:I was told that Wisconsin bowhunters set a harvest record this last season.

How much more "rebound" is needed?
If they set a harvest record it could mean a lot of things. Larger membership. More deer kill less deer remaining. Its how you look at it. I live here and I am telling you the deer herd is way down and the DNR is full of Crap.

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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by Riflemanz » Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:31 pm

Victory for the Good Guys! Check out the vote tally! Screw the WBH.
In Wisconsin....


From last night's statewide Conservation Congress hearings.

Question 86: Lower Crossbow Eligibility from 65 to Age 55:

In favor: 2,014 (53.3%)

Opposed: 1,767 (46.7%)
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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by christo » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:45 am

Interesting that the voting margin is considered 'pretty tight'. You realize that Obama won the 2008 presidential election by about the exact same margin the the press hailed it as a landslide victory, an American demand for change!

This is not a political discourse on Obama. I didn't vote for the man. But the votes are the votes. Sounds like change, it is a-comin.

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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by Woody Williams » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:31 pm

rancid crabtree wrote:The County by County results are in on the Conservation congress Question that asked if the crossbow age should be lowered from 65 to 55 years of age. Here is the breakdown.

(5) Counties tied

(3) Counties decided by a 1 vote margin

(6) Counties decided by a 2 vote margin

(17) Counties decided by 3 to 5 vote margins

(15) Counties vote NO by 6 or more votes

That's (46) counties that either voted No, tied or were very close either way

(26) vote Yes by 6 or more votes

I'm not sure how the Conservation Congress makes the call on this one since the goal was to gauge public support for the idea. The total number of votes was split statewide 53% Yes to 47% NO making it pretty tight. The congress vote was to gauge public support for the idea of lowering the age to 55. Some want it, some don't and many are split.

..
WOW! What spin. You need to go work for Obama. This is not a Presidential election and there is no Electoral College.

Face it - you guys lost.

Now pay some lobbiest to grease the skids for a polician. Pretty slimy stuff..
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Re: Wisconsin Bowhunters association WBA

Post by Woody Williams » Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:42 pm

Of course the DNRs need money to run on. Increased license sales and the resulting P & R funds could be a win fall for them.

Of course it is not just money for the DNR that would be generated, but also money for the mom and pop archery shops that seem to be going under with increasing regularity.Factor in all the related hunting items, motels , food, gasoline, etc that these new hunters would be spending and it can help Wisconsin's economy. I would think a self professed "Fiscal conservative" could figure that all out.

From the Georgia DNR –

“According to data provided by the 4 largest manufacturers of crossbows, a total of 14,073 units were sold in Georgia prior to the first season for crossbows being legal weapon. According to our HOW survey, there were an estimated 17,322 hunters who hunted with a crossbow. Further, according to license unit data, approximately 3,000 hunters held crossbow permits. These hunters would already own crossbows. Subtracting the 3,000 from 17,322 leaves 14,322. Considering the relatively crude methods, this is uncanningly close to the number units indicated as sold in Georgia.

Using the average price of $479 (WW - That is a very low ball figure) , as provided by the manufacturers, per crossbow without including peripherals such arrows, scopes, etc. the minimum retail sales from the new opportunity is $6,740,967. These are one year’s sales. These sales would have generated $471,867 in sales tax revenues for the state of Georgia.”

I don’t guess the archery pro shops would want any of that $6,740,967 and Wisconsin wouldn’t want that sales tax revenues.

Now, you tell us what is wrong with money being spent in the state in support of hunting?

Also tell us how a bunch of 55+ hunters are going to ruin the deer resource up there.
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