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Unbending carbon arrow myth

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Carbon arrows are supposed to be either straight or broken. Here's one that is clearly bent. Close examination revealed
no splinters or cracks etc. This was shot from a vortex and bounced off a wooden building. Boo has mentioned here on
the forum that some of his carbon express arrows have "warped" after some months of shooting.
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Wow . . .so all is fine and one day it's bent? Do you believe it was bent before it hit the fence or do you think the hitting of the fence caused it to warp? Have you sent this picture to Carbon Express . . .I would. That's insane.

I must have missed Boo's posting on that.

Thanks for posting the picture . . .run it by CP and let us know what they say.

Now I have to go out and check all my arrows.
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I've seen this before when an arrow is really tightly imbedded in a foam target and you use a plier type puller to remove it. Amazing stuff!
Imagine what fun it would be if you weren't paying attention and tried to shoot it off of your crossbow. I expect a dryfire would be the result!
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Michael, I bought 12 Hunter Gold Tip shafts for my Hoyt. I shot them all year like the arrow junkie I am. After a year I had 6 remaining and were shooting very poorly even at 20 yards. I measured them with a dial gauge when new. There was no point in measuring them at the end because you could see the bend easily by looking down the shaft.
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Sorry Boo but I'm not sure what C2 is
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Bob64 wrote:Sorry Boo but I'm not sure what C2 is
Sorry it is a type of arrow shaft material put out by Easton. It is very hard, dense and durable. The Firebolts, Easton Axis and Thunderbolts are made from this material.
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Boo wrote:I will stick to C2 or woven shafts from here on in.

I'm pretty rough on my arrows and I've never experienced anything like that . . .I'll be sticking to C2 too. Easton has a new one . . .Full Metal Jacket . . .they make it sound tough.
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I've seen and know that a carbon shaft will bend and if placed under constant pressure over a period of time it will retain the bend.
From the pic you posted it appears that the insert got bent and is placing undue pressure on the tip of the shaft. I'm wondering if removing the insert before it has a chance to permanently bend/mold the carbon fibres if the shaft would straight out with time.

Just a thought.
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ComfyBear wrote:I've seen and know that a carbon shaft will bend and if placed under constant pressure over a period of time it will retain the bend.
From the pic you posted it appears that the insert got bent and is placing undue pressure on the tip of the shaft. I'm wondering if removing the insert before it has a chance to permanently bend/mold the carbon fibres if the shaft would straight out with time.

Just a thought.
Lou, if you look at the picture again the ruler shows the bend starting 1.5" from the insert.
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I was led to understand that "C2" simply was Easton's shorthand for Carbon Composite, and wasn't any specific material.

Carbon arrows definitely can be permanently bent, but it's rare under normal conditions.
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Ill be pay more attention to mine too ..never dreamed i would see a bend like that,,
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I bent a carbon shaft yesterday -in half-trying to remove it form a very wet target. That after two yrs of hard use.But then since it costs me only about $50.00 a dozen to make the GTs, I don't feel to bad when one give ups the ghost. Figure if it's weak and intent on failure, best it happen well after it leaves the bow.
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could it be the weave shifts, not actually bending, but more a string of slight angles?
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strum wrote:Ill be pay more attention to mine too ..never dreamed i would see a bend like that,,

X2
Never thought they could bend that bad and not self straighten. WOW! :shock:
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Boo, does this mean that GT 11's are not C2 material?

Gonna have to check mine out!! :)
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