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Cocking your excal by hand?

Post by NonTypicalCPA » Tue May 15, 2012 3:35 pm

I've got an Exocet 200 that I use a rope cocker to draw. I've tried drawing the string by hand and I can't quite get it cocked (without pulling something). Being my first and only crossbow, I find the fun factor in shooting my excal a lot less enjoyable than my previous compound due to having to use the rope cocker. I was thinking of picking up a Vixen to have as a target bow (and a hunting bow for my kids), thinking that I could draw the 150lbs by hand, thus making for a more enjoyable shooting experience. Is there a significant difference between hand cocking the Vixen versus the Exocet 200?

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Re: Cocking your excal by hand?

Post by houser52 » Tue May 15, 2012 3:51 pm

I've had my Vortex for awhile and it's tough to cock by hand but can be done.

Even though I don't have a Vixen I recently got a 175# Ibex and it's a lot easier to cock by hand if I ever need to. I guess it's a combination of less weight and being a little shorter makes it easier to cock.

Cocking a 150# Vixen would be even easier.
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Re: Cocking your excal by hand?

Post by wabi » Tue May 15, 2012 3:56 pm

I think you'll find it isn't so much the weight, but the draw length that makes cocking the bigger Excals difficult.
I used to cock the old model Vixen all day long with no problem. Went to an Exocet (175#) and it became much more difficult to cock. Switched to a Phoenix (Exocet poundage with the old model Vixen draw length) and I could again cock it by hand. :)
As I get older I find myself using the rope cocking aid more frequently, though. :wink:
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Re: Cocking your excal by hand?

Post by bob watkins » Tue May 15, 2012 4:51 pm

i had back sugery in jan ihave a vortex. ihad a ten point crank put on. it works great . had it done at wyvern creations. bob

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Post by Bullzeye » Tue May 15, 2012 7:02 pm

I wish I could cock my Exocet by hand, but due to health issues I have to use the C2 cranking aid, but it would be so much quicker to just do it by hand. I try to bring a friend with a good back to shoot with me :lol:
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Re: Cocking your excal by hand?

Post by rayman » Tue May 15, 2012 7:18 pm

I have found that when I cock my Axiom by hand, not only does my back hurt, but the string does not seem to line up correctly. Using the rope cocker it seems to line up good every time.

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Post by Boo » Tue May 15, 2012 7:25 pm

I think for recreational shooting there are many reasons to buy an Apex. It is a pleasure to cock, it's super accurate, easy on strings, servings, arrows and targets. Plus it looks cool!
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Post by maine hunter » Tue May 15, 2012 7:28 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: i have the axiom, and always use the rope cocker. my hands are too sensitve......
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Post by Normous » Tue May 15, 2012 11:41 pm

Been shooting all Excaliburs since 1991 and didn't get my first rope cocker until six years ago. Didn't even know they existed till I joined this forum. Helps you stay in shape back then.
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Re: Cocking your excal by hand?

Post by Big58cal » Wed May 16, 2012 9:15 am

rayman wrote:..... but the string does not seem to line up correctly. Using the rope cocker it seems to line up good every time.
That would be my main concern with cocking by hand. I used to have an old POS Barnett several years ago. I had the string marked on either side of the rail and would always have to reposition it to where it was centered after I cocked it by hand. Using the rope cocker or Crankaroo, you don't have to worry about string alignment. :wink:

Or you could just get a 225 lb model and make it so that you pretty much have to use a cocking aid, then it will be a moot point. :mrgreen:
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Re: Cocking your excal by hand?

Post by NonTypicalCPA » Wed May 16, 2012 1:49 pm

Thanks for the input. I know the alignment issue is there. I can work with that. I just wanted to know if it was possible with the Vixen. The apex won't work because I want a hunting bow as well for my kids.

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Re: Cocking your excal by hand?

Post by blackjack » Wed May 16, 2012 6:49 pm

NonTypicalCPA wrote:I've got an Exocet 200 that I use a rope cocker to draw. I've tried drawing the string by hand and I can't quite get it cocked (without pulling something). Being my first and only crossbow, I find the fun factor in shooting my excal a lot less enjoyable than my previous compound due to having to use the rope cocker. I was thinking of picking up a Vixen to have as a target bow (and a hunting bow for my kids), thinking that I could draw the 150lbs by hand, thus making for a more enjoyable shooting experience. Is there a significant difference between hand cocking the Vixen versus the Exocet 200?
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Re: Cocking your excal by hand?

Post by j.krug » Wed May 16, 2012 7:46 pm

I cocked my old Exocet by hand for years. Didn't know about the rope cocker till I bought my Vortex a couple years ago. I can cock it by hand with out much difficulty but it's alot easier (and more consistent) to use the rope cocker.
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Re: Cocking your excal by hand?

Post by VixChix » Wed May 16, 2012 9:31 pm

I can cock the Vixen and hubby's Phoenix by hand... but letting them down is another matter. I can with the Vixen, but I'd rather use the rope cocker. The Phoenix I don't even want to try to let down by hand. But then, I'm a woman with less upper body strength than you guys.
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Re: Cocking your excal by hand?

Post by sumner4991 » Fri May 18, 2012 9:26 am

I too found that cocking by hand is hard on the fingers. I would get temporary numbness in the tips of my fingers.

Once I got a routine using the rope cocker, then it seems natural and I can do it rather quickly. I like knowing it's cocked evenly too.

Of course, the Exomax is a beast to cock by hand . . .but, I cock my Vixen by rope too and it's fairly easy for me to cock by hand.
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