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Some Questions

Post by rej » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:34 pm

Hi all, first time on here and new Excalibur owner. Got myself a Votex with Shadow Zone kit. No regrets. Easy to assemble and sight in. Shot it for a while then got a Flemish string and cheek piece along with Boltcutters. Again no problems. I have a few questions.

I will go out in -15 or -20 to hunt. Is this too cold for the limbs, string etc.? How much kinetic energy do you loose using a mechanical broadhead? I like the idea of a double rifle case for transport. When limbs are remounted will POI change? These bows are very precision made and I cannot feel any movement when the assembly is backed in tight.

Learning lots of things reading on here so thanks for helping out a newb.

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Re: Some Questions

Post by awshucks » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:46 pm

X2 on what Hank told ya and,
How much kinetic energy do you loose using a mechanical broadhead?
I've never seen this asked here before [6 yrs]. You have plenty of KE, so don't worry about it............

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Re: Some Questions

Post by georgiaboy » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:37 pm

Congrats on your vortex & welcome to the forum!! :D
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Re: Some Questions

Post by Raymond » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:15 am

Congrats and welcome.
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Re: Some Questions

Post by bryman021 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:01 am

welcome to the best forum on the web!

I have taken the riser and limbs off the stock on my Ibex twice and my POI didn't change at all, or if it did it wasn't enough to be noticeable to me. The Excal's are so well built that your limbs and riser will mount right back to where they were. If you do take it down to transport I would just be sure to take a few practice shots before hunting, but I think you will find that it will still be hitting the same spot.

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Re: Some Questions

Post by j.krug » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:09 am

Welcome to the forum and congrats on your new Vortex.
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Re: Some Questions

Post by rej » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:45 pm

Thank you all for the info and the greetings. Learned the difference between riser and limbs. Took the riser assembly off a couple times and saw no difference in POI. I find the cheek rest works well for lining up head to scope. Now that the Flemish string is stretched in and set right all I can say is WOW. The accuracy is remarkable. With a little practice I started clustering tight on the bull at 50 yd so now I use a different center for each shot. Arrows are kind of pricey. I was going to get a Phoenix originally. Being comfortably past three score in years I was concerned about being able to draw a 200 lb. bow. The cocking aid makes it easy. I am in the country so can practice all I want(yes I am waxing the serving) and having a lot of fun. Elk season is not that far away and I have no hesitation about taking a shot at one with this stringed cannon. Thanks again for the pointers

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Re: Some Questions

Post by vixenmaster » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:18 pm

OK lets talk n yak abit. Taking Riser assembly off n on won't change string brace ht. So nada change brace ht so no change in impact point of aim unless you change arrow weight! Welcome to the Forum & Excals crossbows
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Re: Some Questions

Post by crazyfarmerHD » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:04 pm

for travel you could take the riser and all off.. then just pop it back on

it will be fine and welcome here
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Re: Some Questions

Post by nchunterkw » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:06 pm

I would notwant to sacrifice any KE when going for elk. With an Excal, using a fixed blade is no problem. I would suggest a 2" blazer or fusion vane fletched with an Arizone EZ fletch Bolt fletcher. Should stabliize anything you want to shoot. You might want to consider the Motec heads (I like the CS), or the traditional Muzzy 3 or 4 blade.
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Re: Some Questions

Post by Cossack » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:51 am

Either (quality) fixed or mechanical heads like Slick Tricks mag or Spitfire Pro have more that triple the minimum kinetic energy recommended for deer and will give you passthroughs on elk at reasonable distances with your Vortex. An arrow weighing around 450 grs total will give you reasonable kinetic energy while retaining a flatter trajectory desirable for the longer shots. Shooting just such a rig with my Vortex I can easily hit an elk-heart-sized object at 50 yards.
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Re: Some Questions

Post by rej » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:11 pm

Thanks for the comments. with these and lots of reading on here learning plenty. one thing I quickly saw a lot of on here was the word "Boo". Went to his site and learned a ton so here is my plan and I welcome advice. I will do his polishing procedure as it is straight forward. Going to use an S5 kit with his mods and measurments. Have a couple ideas to reduce sound and maybe an enhancement to his S5 mod. I want to fine tune the Vortex. I will contine with standard firebolt and boltcutters as a constant. Do not yet have enough experience for the many offerings out there and I think ya get that by making them and doing a lot of shooting. Leaving the Excalibur Flemish string on and when I wear it out time for a Boo string and experimenting with bolt configuration. Having a lot of fun with this bow and awaiting hunting time.

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Re: Some Questions

Post by rej » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:23 pm

Ooops! Just realized I was referring to STS, no S5 in last posting.

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Re: Some Questions

Post by Farmer » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:49 pm

Welcome to the forum rej . Have had good luck with Magnus Snuffer 125 grain BH and Wasp Boss 4 blade . For mechanicals have used rocket Sidewinder and hammerhead . ( used Nap Spitfire when they first came out as a 2 blade with good results )

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Re: Some Questions

Post by nchunterkw » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:34 pm

You might want to do a Google search on Swhacker broadheads - specifically for some Youtube videos showing tests of many mechanicals vs that head. I've not shot the Swhacker (yet) but the video is quite revealing on some other popular heads. I've had trouble with Rage 2 blades out of a Horton Legend on a big deer at very close range (10 yards maybe). KE was definately over 60 ft lbs but terminal performance was horrible. With the accuracy,consistency, and stability I get with my Excal, I see no reason to ever shoot mechanicals again. I tight group with fixed blades = well tuned (and well flying) arrows. The same cannot always be said of a tight group with a mechanical. My 2 cents.
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