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Re: hunting use for drones?

Post by Tim50 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:10 pm

Back in the day scouting consisted of getting into the woods & looking for trails, rubs, scrapes bedding area's.....all with boots on the ground!

Now people have multiple camera's some feeding back to their home PC or even their phone. How many people here who hate drones use trail cams? I personally don't use either but I know many "bone hunters" that before the season even starts already have deer staked out via camera's! Can someone make an argument on why trail camera technology is acceptable & drones are not? I'm old school I say ban them both! Make people get off their I-phone & PC's when scouting deer! I was confronted last year by a high tech hunter who claims because he had a trail cam in the area I should not be allowed to hunt that parcel of public property! I did not see his camera but I spent some time scouting the area the old fashioned way! It turns out he has nearly a dozen camera's and he harvested a VERY nice buck after doing his high tech scouting. He showed me photos time stamped and he harvested that deer with in a half hour of the preseason scouting photos time stamps! I'll take drones over trail cam's ANYDAY!! Just to be clear I will not & do not use either!

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Re: hunting use for drones?

Post by ch312 » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:34 am

Tim50, the difference between a trail camera and a drone is the trail camera can only provide surveillance of one specific spot while the drone high above can show you acres of land.

When there is snow on the ground you could easily see every deer within a few hundred yards in every direction of the drones position. Not only that, but the drone could also be used to herd the deer towards waiting hunters and even aid in tracking the remaining animals after they spooked.


I'll try to remember to yell "pull!" before I blast any unlucky drone that interrupts my hunt. :D :lol:

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Post by agingcrossbower » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:35 am

Tim50, it sounds like sour grapes with you. Drones would be crazy effective for killing anything. Banned them.

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Post by wildcatter » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:40 am

Tim50 wrote:Back in the day scouting consisted of getting into the woods & looking for trails, rubs, scrapes bedding area's.....all with boots on the ground!

Now people have multiple camera's some feeding back to their home PC or even their phone. How many people here who hate drones use trail cams? I personally don't use either but I know many "bone hunters" that before the season even starts already have deer staked out via camera's! Can someone make an argument on why trail camera technology is acceptable & drones are not? I'm old school I say ban them both! Make people get off their I-phone & PC's when scouting deer! I was confronted last year by a high tech hunter who claims because he had a trail cam in the area I should not be allowed to hunt that parcel of public property! I did not see his camera but I spent some time scouting the area the old fashioned way! It turns out he has nearly a dozen camera's and he harvested a VERY nice buck after doing his high tech scouting. He showed me photos time stamped and he harvested that deer with in a half hour of the preseason scouting photos time stamps! I'll take drones over trail cam's ANYDAY!! Just to be clear I will not & do not use either!
Whatever is legal, suite yourself,,, I'll continue to hunt fer mine. Like you said, boots on the ground is more satisfying to me, it just reminds me of,,,, well hunting! Plus it's not all that difficult when they'll only give me 6 tags anyway's. Hell who knows someday maybe they will make it legal to put a remote on yer gun and set it up so its pointing at your feeder with a gopro to confirm your aim and you can set on your ars and nail em from the couch,, that will make a lot of haunters happy, and sell even more licenses,,,,, :roll:
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Re: hunting use for drones?

Post by Pydpiper » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:14 am

Switch a couple words around, this sounds exactly like every anti argument I have heard, or read.
It's ok for someone to use every bit of technology available to them, but if someone else uses something they don't have, it calls for an immediate ban, they are not worthy of the sport.
BTW, driving a quad is absolutely, without doubt, not the same as "having your boots on the ground". Shooting a state of the art crossbow is not "traditional", Lithium powered illuminated reticals is not traditional.
If it is legal, go for it, most places do not allow the use of a drone for hunting, and probably for good reason. However, drones come in many flavors, not all of them give a live view to the user, some just capture images of the guy with the gun, a tiny photographer whos photos can't be seen until you are home.
I am hunting today, not local, but I would love to run a drone over the local property to see what is going on, from my front porch. I simply don't have the time to do both.
I don't have a drone, a quad or even a crossbow.
This wedge that hypocritical hunters are driving between other hunters is a sad glimpse of reality.
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Re: hunting use for drones?

Post by Doe Master » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:19 am

Wildcat you kind of said it .
Whatever is legal in your area . There is a long list of what one hunter may think is okay and the other has a furled brow .
Some examples . Hunting over bait versus food plot .
Using dogs to push .
Using traditional bows . Just to say you are doing it without sufficient practice .
Using a inline muzzleloader .
The list is endless .
I for one enjoy using trail cameras . I definitely am not a bone collector . We in the group enjoy seeing what is out there . Gives us hope .
I just got a drone and plan on trying it . We want to see what the swamp looks like from up there . Because we are not rich enough to rent a helicopter to fly over and take pictures for us .
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Post by Pydpiper » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:25 am

Doe Master wrote:Wildcat you kind of said it .
Whatever is legal in your area . There is a long list of what one hunter may think is okay and the other has a furled brow .
Some examples . Hunting over bait versus food plot .
Using dogs to push .
Using traditional bows . Just to say you are doing it without sufficient practice .
Using a inline muzzleloader .
The list is endless .
I for one enjoy using trail cameras . I definitely am not a bone collector . We in the group enjoy seeing what is out there . Gives us hope .
I just got a drone and plan on trying it . We want to see what the swamp looks like from up there . Because we are not rich enough to rent a helicopter to fly over and take pictures for us .
Just realized you are now a "site admin" Kevin, good news for us, bad news for the k1tchen guys.
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Re: hunting use for drones?

Post by Timbrhuntr » Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:16 am

Remote-Control Hunting
Texas rancher's controversial plan will allow long-distance hunting with the click of a mouse.
Article by Mike Schoby
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Photo by Outdoor Life Online Editor
Deer camps, bolt-action rifles and camouflage may soon be exchanged for cubicles, high-speed Internet connections and casual attire-that is, if John Lockwood has his way.

Lockwood, owner and inventor of www.live-shot.com, has garnered significant attention with his new twist on hunting. The main ingredients of his plan are a Texas ranch stocked with a variety of game, a remote-controlled, computer-aided rifle and the Internet.
Lockwood's high-tech shooting platform allows people anywhere in the world to log on, enter a credit card number and start shooting. Lockwood is quick to point out that "it's not just a loaded gun out there in the woods; there's always an on-site 'guide' who overrides the controls until he is satisfied with the member's sight picture."

While some view this form of hunting as the future, many prefer a more traditional approach. No sooner had the idea begun making news than several organizations, including Safari Club International and Texas Parks and Wildlife, spoke out against it. The TPW seems to be gearing up to prohibit or restrict online hunting. The serious media quickly jumped on the story, as did The Daily Show on Comedy Central.

But Lockwood is determined. "My goal is to bring shooting and hunting to those who can't do either. Just because you have the ability to go out and experience hunting firsthand doesn't mean it's right to discriminate against those who don't."

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Re: hunting use for drones?

Post by sitruc » Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:21 am

Timbrhuntr wrote:Remote-Control Hunting
Texas rancher's controversial plan will allow long-distance hunting with the click of a mouse.
Article by Mike Schoby
13

Photo by Outdoor Life Online Editor
Deer camps, bolt-action rifles and camouflage may soon be exchanged for cubicles, high-speed Internet connections and casual attire-that is, if John Lockwood has his way.

Lockwood, owner and inventor of www.live-shot.com, has garnered significant attention with his new twist on hunting. The main ingredients of his plan are a Texas ranch stocked with a variety of game, a remote-controlled, computer-aided rifle and the Internet.
Lockwood's high-tech shooting platform allows people anywhere in the world to log on, enter a credit card number and start shooting. Lockwood is quick to point out that "it's not just a loaded gun out there in the woods; there's always an on-site 'guide' who overrides the controls until he is satisfied with the member's sight picture."

While some view this form of hunting as the future, many prefer a more traditional approach. No sooner had the idea begun making news than several organizations, including Safari Club International and Texas Parks and Wildlife, spoke out against it. The TPW seems to be gearing up to prohibit or restrict online hunting. The serious media quickly jumped on the story, as did The Daily Show on Comedy Central.

But Lockwood is determined. "My goal is to bring shooting and hunting to those who can't do either. Just because you have the ability to go out and experience hunting firsthand doesn't mean it's right to discriminate against those who don't."
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Re: hunting use for drones?

Post by robertyb » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:22 pm

That artical is years old and it was banned anyway.
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Re: hunting use for drones?

Post by kamont » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:38 pm

I think the laws are slow to change with technology.
Is it all about getting the animal or enjoying the great outdoors. I'm glad you "hunters" :roll: ( I use that term loosely) do not refer to yourselves as "sportsman. JMO

SPORTSMAN, a man who takes part in sports, esp of the outdoor type. 2. a person who exhibits qualities highly regarded in sport, such as fairness, generosity, observance of the rules, and good humour when losing.

FAIR CHASE, as defined by the Boone and Crockett Club, is the ethical, sportsmanlike, and lawful pursuit and taking of any free-ranging wild, native North American big game animal in a manner that does not give the hunter an improper advantage over such animals

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Re: hunting use for drones?

Post by Old Buck » Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:48 pm

" Improper advantage " Very broad term . :)
Guess that rules out bows and rifles . :)

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Post by sitruc » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:32 pm

I suppose horn to horn is only fair chase method? :shock:
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Re: hunting use for drones?

Post by Pydpiper » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:17 pm

Ironically. if anyone was set against technology, they wouldn't be able to post. The rest, hypocrites.
Fun to watch the last generation spin in their seats.
Hunting with a drone is not cool, and in my opinion, not ethical, by my personal standards. but I don't stomp my boots when someone does what the law says they can, because the simple fact remains, if we listened to the whiners on what we can and can't do, we wouldn't have crossbows. Everyone has a line, some are just louder about where theirs are than others.
This thread is a perfect example, strap a crazy new cutting edge technolgy bow to your quad, DRIVE in, slip a laser cut broadhead through a deer while looking through a battery operated scope, strap it to your electric start, 4WD quad and go home. Clean your deer, and then log in to your computer and bitch about why technology sucks, on an internet forum.
Simple fact is, there are laws, stay inside them and you are left with morals. Do both and have a great hunt! Life is good!
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Post by Limbs and Sticks » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:46 am

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