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keep us posted. good luck
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Here's the 12 shot string after waxing the serving and tightening all screws. Bench rest at 20 yards, no wind. 100 gn field points on Quill arrows. The bow never moved when firing. OH, the black circle is 2.5 inches.

What do ya think?
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va3cgt, that is a dead deer at 20. Try some 150 grain tips and always orient the same vane the same way everytime to shrink your groups.
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Normous wrote:va3cgt, that is a dead deer at 20. Try some 150 grain tips and always orient the same vane the same way everytime to shrink your groups.
You're probably right hence why Excal supplies the 150 gn points.
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How many arrows were you using?
And Norm is correct mark one vane and shoot. Rotate the vanes untill all arrows group.
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newbie wrote:How many arrows were you using?
And Norm is correct mark one vane and shoot. Rotate the vanes untill all arrows group.
The 4 shot across the bottom were me adjusting the scope to the right, but I was using the same one arrow.
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I found an old thread on Micro accuracy.

Tonight took the 100s, then added 16grs of brass washers for a total of 366grs ( tried to add 5\16 set screws from the insert end but they added too much length) , and then did 50gr FPs for a total of 400grs. So I had 9 bolts 3 of each weight.
Shot (3)4 shot groups at 20 yards with each weight.
350s sucked. Maybe 2-3” groups. 366s were better, but 1.5” maybe. 400s groups could have been completely covered by a quarter, maybe a nickel."


OK, so I feel better now knowing the micro is spot on with the 100gn field points. As indicated by the poster the 150 gn offered the best accuracy. It's all clear now.
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va3cgt wrote:I found an old thread on Micro accuracy.

Tonight took the 100s, then added 16grs of brass washers for a total of 366grs ( tried to add 5\16 set screws from the insert end but they added too much length) , and then did 50gr FPs for a total of 400grs. So I had 9 bolts 3 of each weight.
Shot (3)4 shot groups at 20 yards with each weight.
350s sucked. Maybe 2-3” groups. 366s were better, but 1.5” maybe. 400s groups could have been completely covered by a quarter, maybe a nickel."


OK, so I feel better now knowing the micro is spot on with the 100gn field points. As indicated by the poster the 150 gn offered the best accuracy. It's all clear now.
Hmmmm, this sounds familiar. I think someone was inquiring about your point weight. :wink: .....don't sweat a few fps speed loss. When you can't shoot at the same spot at forty yards it's much more gratifying than a faster miss with a lighter arrow with too low a FOC balance. Please report back with your new grouping with the increased point weight/FOC.

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I experimented with different arrow weights and lengths for my Micro.

For my bow the best long range accuracy arrow is listed below.

16.5" zombie shafts.

110gr
Brass insert in front with 100gr field point or bH.

Lumenok rear insert.

2" blazer vanes.

Total weight 413 gr.

Superb groups out to 40 yards and When this arrow hits a deer it sounds like one heck of a smack and pass through every time.... :)

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Do you have access to another scope you could try?

I think you have a "bad" scope...at 20 yrds even poor arrows should group better than that...

Get a firm grip on your scope and see if there's any movement at all if you pull up and down or wiggle it.
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va3cgt wrote:Image

Here's the 12 shot string after waxing the serving and tightening all screws. Bench rest at 20 yards, no wind. 100 gn field points on Quill arrows. The bow never moved when firing. OH, the black circle is 2.5 inches.

What do ya think?

That is terrible at 20 yards.I would try 150 gr points on quill arrows..
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I contacted Excalibur and asked If waxing the serving is recommended, they replied " the serving should be waxed about every 40 to 50 shots" . I Personally do NOT wax the serving, and the one time that I met Bill Troubridge in 2006 he told me not to wax the serving either. So I'm not sure why they recommend it now? I want my claws to be smooth not sticky with wax
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jparchery wrote:I contacted Excalibur and asked If waxing the serving is recommended, they replied " the serving should be waxed about every 40 to 50 shots" . I Personally do NOT wax the serving, and the one time that I met Bill Troubridge in 2006 he told me not to wax the serving either. So I'm not sure why they recommend it now? I want my claws to be smooth not sticky with wax
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I wax a string when it gets that dried out fuzzy look to it. Will wax serving lightly when it looks frayed a little. I shoot a pretty good deal and wax maybe 2 or 3 times a year. I have not yet completely worn out a string or serving on any of my 3 Excals but have changed a couple of strings out that pretty much need reserving. Might get around to it someday.. Strings are pretty cheap though and I am still trying to wear out the 1st one I got from Vixenmaster. :D
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Update. I had some cheap 16 inch, made-in-China 2219 aluminum shafts in pink from Princess auto (Canadian store) plastic nock and insert, 100 grain field point, 4 inch veins. The total arrow weight is 394 grain.....HOLY CRAP 3 shots at 20 yards, all holes touching. Major improvement over the 350 grain Quill arrows which were shooting 1.5-2 inch groups at the same distance.

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