Matrix Black 380

typical10 · Post by **typical10** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:57 am

Is there any difference in the 2015 model compared to the 2016? Was the limb issue addressed with new style in 2015? thanks jeff~

vixenmaster · Post by **vixenmaster** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:33 am

I can't say if'en they changed anything on the 380, of course they dropped the 405. So maybe they got the limb problems ironed out enuff the 380's will hold wid no troubles. I sure hope so as i have one

Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:57 am

We didn't really see as many issues with the Matrix 380. However, all of our limbs going forward will be coated with our new process avoiding many future issues related to heat.

This is not to say we will never have a limb failure again, any limb can fail from any type of bow. Even our much loved long limb crossbow models had limb failures. Believe it or not the industry standard for limb failures is 16%! We normally sit around 1-2% and the 405 was a little higher but still was way below standard. We just don't think 16% failures is reasonable, I have no idea how some bow companies deal with that sort of failure rate?

As I have said before, if you believe everything you read on social media you would think every crossbow we made was failing, this is not even close to the truth. Yes, we had some limbs fail during the busy hunting season...this is the only time they will happen. We did find a processing problem that affected some limbs and fixed it.

So, if you have a crossbow that did not have a limb issue but worried yours may fail, stop worrying.

It sort of like worrying you're going to have a flat tire...crap happens. Just shoot your crossbow and be happy and remember you have an insurance policy called "Lifetime Warranty"! If something happens we are here to look after you.

Peter

Mustang4455 · Post by **Mustang4455** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:11 am

This is why I bought an Excalibur. Can't wait for it to arrive tomorrow. Feels like Christmas. Feels good knowing they got your back if anything happens .

Carnivorous · Post by **Carnivorous** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:18 am

Amen!!!

The vast majority of us have had zero limb issues. It would be nice if we could see more Posts about hunting and new crossbow eye candy. Instead of the 1% limb issues....

newbie · Post by **newbie** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:28 am

bellerivercrossbowhunter wrote:Amen!!!

The vast majority of us have had zero limb issues. It would be nice if we could see more Posts about hunting and new crossbow eye candy. Instead of the 1% limb issues....

Or more eye candy pics of the new Micro 355:wink

Carnivorous · Post by **Carnivorous** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:46 am

newbie wrote:
bellerivercrossbowhunter wrote:Amen!!!

The vast majority of us have had zero limb issues. It would be nice if we could see more Posts about hunting and new crossbow eye candy. Instead of the 1% limb issues....
Or more eye candy pics of the new Micro 355:wink

As long as I stay away from the archery shops I should be able to resist the temptation... LoL

amythntr · Post by **amythntr** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:53 am

Excalibur Marketing Dude wrote:We didn't really see as many issues with the Matrix 380. However, all of our limbs going forward will be coated with our new process avoiding many future issues related to heat.

This is not to say we will never have a limb failure again, any limb can fail from any type of bow. Even our much loved long limb crossbow models had limb failures. Believe it or not the industry standard for limb failures is 16%! We normally sit around 1-2% and the 405 was a little higher but still was way below standard. We just don't think 16% failures is reasonable, I have no idea how some bow companies deal with that sort of failure rate?

As I have said before, if you believe everything you read on social media you would think every crossbow we made was failing, this is not even close to the truth. Yes, we had some limbs fail during the busy hunting season...this is the only time they will happen. We did find a processing problem that affected some limbs and fixed it.

So, if you have a crossbow that did not have a limb issue but worried yours may fail, stop worrying. It sort of like worrying you're going to have a flat tire...crap happens. Just shoot your crossbow and be happy and remember you have an insurance policy called "Lifetime Warranty"! If something happens we are here to look after you.

Peter

....Peter, I know you are worried about our sleeping habits...let me explain...there are some people who might have trouble sleeping worrying about "if" and "when" there might be a limb failure. I know there is concern about it happening while up in a tree or on an expensive hunt...(but that can happen with any hunting implement at any time.)....I can assure you that I have no trouble sleeping because I know we have the best crossbow company out there....standing behind us with their IRON CLAD WARRANTY!

Thank you for all that you do to help me sleep comfortably!

Anthony

typical10 · Post by **typical10** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:54 am

The other 1/2 of the question is the 15 bow the same as the 2016 bow??

way123hockey · Post by **way123hockey** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:18 pm

It's a year older.

wapster · Post by **wapster** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:42 pm

If it was "only a limb problem"...why the Excal 350 le ????

robertyb · Post by **robertyb** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:59 am

wapster wrote:If it was "only a limb problem"...why the Excal 350 le ????

So us poor folks can take advantage of the Can/US exchange rates and buy a new Excalibur cheap.

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