broad head selection
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broad head selection
looking real hard at the slick trick 150's. BUT have read numerous accts of poor blood trails after shot. same with bolt cutter's. any comments from those that used them and if so, what did you change to.
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Re: broad head selection
I have never had anything but good blood trails with Slick Tricks. Unless you hit the spine you will most certainly pass through, and if you hit 2 lungs you should have blood within a yard or 2 of the hit and consistent good blood to the deer. The only one that was a little light was when I took a qtr. to shot and the guts plugged the exit. But even then there was blood to follow.
By "good blood" I am saying several (8-10) 1" drops of blood every yard or so usually progressing to more and more as the trail goes.
"Bad blood trails" generally translates to poor hits in my mind, although this is not always the case. Or someone has unrealistic expectations as to what a good blood trail is.
All that being said, I tried RamCats along side my Slick Tricks last year and will be using them going forward. Both gave me good blood tails, but I think the Ramcats fly just a bit better.
By "good blood" I am saying several (8-10) 1" drops of blood every yard or so usually progressing to more and more as the trail goes.
"Bad blood trails" generally translates to poor hits in my mind, although this is not always the case. Or someone has unrealistic expectations as to what a good blood trail is.
All that being said, I tried RamCats along side my Slick Tricks last year and will be using them going forward. Both gave me good blood tails, but I think the Ramcats fly just a bit better.
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Re: broad head selection
So What Keith is really saying is... he tried the rest and settled on the best RamCat's baby that's my weapon of choice
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Buszone wrote:So What Keith is really saying is... he tried the rest and settled on the best RamCat's baby that's my weapon of choice
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Re: broad head selection
you can't beat 7 for 7 with slick trick 150's very good bt's with them . nothing else for me.
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Re: broad head selection
thanks for the replys; but since i'm an old stick bow user, i sorta lean towards the heaver BH. so i think i will try the slick trick 150's and hopefully not live to regret it. wouldn't it be nice to be able to try ANY and ALL BH's on the market and then make a choice. $$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Re: broad head selection
I used to use the Slick Tricks Mags with great results but I switched to the Grizztrick 2's and they also punch big holes in deer and turkeys with great results, Most double lung shots fall within 40 yards some within 25 yards with great bloods trails. I get great penetration with a 400+ arrow weight, most of the time the arrow is buried in the ground after the passthru. Good luck with your decision.
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Wolfman its like women every guy has a preference But take the time to check out The write up on the buffalo hunt using 125gr. RamCats.
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Re: broad head selection
When its all said n done even a field point low in the heart
/lung area pass-thru will have a decent blood trail. Some may wander out there a good ways before they fall 2-3-4 blades all work, so choose they one you like n kill them tick toters
/lung area pass-thru will have a decent blood trail. Some may wander out there a good ways before they fall 2-3-4 blades all work, so choose they one you like n kill them tick toters
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Re: broad head selection
I have used Slick Tricks since their intro on the market. Until this past season have never considered switching. 3 deer with magnums and no or very poor blood trails. The no blood trail was a double lung pass through; not a single drop even where the deer was down. I have never experienced this before in my 40 plus years of archery. Presently I am attributing this to dull blades. I put new blades on for each deer, never use them twice. Don't understand at all. I harvested a 4th deer with a Wasp Jak Knife. Full pass through, double lung, blood trail a blind man could follow in the dark. Deer went less than thirty yards. I will be trying more Wasp heads.
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I shot one like that one time with a Montec. No blodd, but deer only went 40yds. Busted through both shoulders and both lungs, but a bt forward. When I got it home, it seemed like all the blood was between the offside hide and the meat. Very strange.carperdoug wrote:I have used Slick Tricks since their intro on the market. Until this past season have never considered switching. 3 deer with magnums and no or very poor blood trails. The no blood trail was a double lung pass through; not a single drop even where the deer was down. I have never experienced this before in my 40 plus years of archery. Presently I am attributing this to dull blades. I put new blades on for each deer, never use them twice. Don't understand at all. I harvested a 4th deer with a Wasp Jak Knife. Full pass through, double lung, blood trail a blind man could follow in the dark. Deer went less than thirty yards. I will be trying more Wasp heads.
How far did your "no blood trail" deer travel after the shot?
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Re: broad head selection
Used Slick Trick 150's this year and don't plan on changing. Double lunged a nice buck and watched him fall 40 yards away. There was blood everywhere and when I gutted him, there were only little pieces of lung. Looked like I put them through a blender.
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Re: broad head selection
nchunterkw wrote:I shot one like that one time with a Montec. No blodd, but deer only went 40yds. Busted through both shoulders and both lungs, but a bt forward. When I got it home, it seemed like all the blood was between the offside hide and the meat. Very strange.carperdoug wrote:I have used Slick Tricks since their intro on the market. Until this past season have never considered switching. 3 deer with magnums and no or very poor blood trails. The no blood trail was a double lung pass through; not a single drop even where the deer was down. I have never experienced this before in my 40 plus years of archery. Presently I am attributing this to dull blades. I put new blades on for each deer, never use them twice. Don't understand at all. I harvested a 4th deer with a Wasp Jak Knife. Full pass through, double lung, blood trail a blind man could follow in the dark. Deer went less than thirty yards. I will be trying more Wasp heads.
How far did your "no blood trail" deer travel after the shot?
The deer went no further than 50 yards.
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Re: broad head selection
I used the original 1" Slick Trick 100g for the longest time because of how well they fly. I cannot complain about their effectiveness as most dropped in sight or earshot. The one thing I didn't like was the blood trails... little specks of blood here and there and most were double lung shots. (except for the occasional artery hit) Not sure if the fat under the skin of a mature whitetail seals up the hole or what. So then I switched to Swhacker 100g 2". Again, most deer dropped under 80 yards, but also not much on blood trails. A good double lung hit will leave the chest cavity deflated and seems like all the blood just pools there inside that cavity.
I hate to admit but it seems to me that Rage (although most folks have a love-hate relationship with them) seem to be onto something with the broadhead opening up BEFORE it enters the animal. Some of those videos are awesome how even the first milliseconds on impact, blood is just pouring out of the chest cavity.
That being said, I think I'm pretty happy with my Swhackers and don't plan on switching anytime soon.
I hate to admit but it seems to me that Rage (although most folks have a love-hate relationship with them) seem to be onto something with the broadhead opening up BEFORE it enters the animal. Some of those videos are awesome how even the first milliseconds on impact, blood is just pouring out of the chest cavity.
That being said, I think I'm pretty happy with my Swhackers and don't plan on switching anytime soon.
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Re: broad head selection
You probably hit him with a high double lung shot. Takes a few seconds to fill up and bleed with a high shot and if he went 50 yards he was dead before the blood started to hit the ground. Had it happen several times.carperdoug wrote:nchunterkw wrote:I shot one like that one time with a Montec. No blodd, but deer only went 40yds. Busted through both shoulders and both lungs, but a bt forward. When I got it home, it seemed like all the blood was between the offside hide and the meat. Very strange.carperdoug wrote:I have used Slick Tricks since their intro on the market. Until this past season have never considered switching. 3 deer with magnums and no or very poor blood trails. The no blood trail was a double lung pass through; not a single drop even where the deer was down. I have never experienced this before in my 40 plus years of archery. Presently I am attributing this to dull blades. I put new blades on for each deer, never use them twice. Don't understand at all. I harvested a 4th deer with a Wasp Jak Knife. Full pass through, double lung, blood trail a blind man could follow in the dark. Deer went less than thirty yards. I will be trying more Wasp heads.
How far did your "no blood trail" deer travel after the shot?
The deer went no further than 50 yards.
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