O/T Cecil the lion - funny how things change

[maple]

In todays paper is news that Zimbabwe officials are going to cull 200 lions because there are not enough hunters to keep them in check.
Funny how things change.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world ... aying-home

[papabear1]

Go figure !!!! Lets see how the news handles this one,

Dave

[agingcrossbower]

Go figure !!!! Lets see how the news handles this one,

Dave

They will not cover it. Does not fit their narrative. Pretty sad. People are such Sheeple.

[wildcatter]

It amazed me when this first came out how many hunters, archers, and shooters were ready to stand with the press and tree huggers, ranting how he gave archers a bad eye,,,,, I don't use guides but do hunt against wildlife refuge areas and trust me,,,,, if a petting zoo is close, they better keep their pet's on their side of the fence!!

I said it then and will say it again,,,,,, Cecil, Benny, rudolph whatever is in trouble on the land I can legally hunt,,,,,,,when that is my target animal, I think that's what they call hunting!!

[Hillcountry]

It amazed me when this first came out how many hunters, archers, and shooters were ready to stand with the press and tree huggers, ranting how he gave archers a bad eye,,,,, I don't use guides but do hunt against wildlife refuge areas and trust me,,,,, if a petting zoo is close, they better keep their pet's on their side of the fence!!

I said it then and will say it again,,,,,, Cecil, Benny, rudolph whatever is in trouble on the land I can legally hunt,,,,,,,when that is my target animal, I think that's what they call hunting!!

X2!

[Hunt it]

X3
Funny indeed how all the facts are left out. I have hunted where Cecil was arrowed. The Matetsi Concessions are all bordering the National Park - Hwange -pronounced Wanki. The Government set all the Matetsi boundaries and controls the concessions and who hunts them. There is no fence between the National park and hunting concessions only a GPS coordinate.

All big cats are baited -99.9% of the time as it is best option for success and legal. The same practice of hunting animals leaving park boundary are used in North America all the time. The elk and bison that leave Yellowstone are hunted, the big horns that leave Canamore reserve in Alberta are hunted and same goes for many refuge and National parks. I'm not saying that hunt was conducted under legal terms and I think the outfitter new exactly what was up. Looks bad all the way around but..... as I described it to a CBC reporter that wanted me to do a news telecast on this - (first off I declined) but said it's like this - Tiger F'd up Golf, Lance F'd up cycling and Doc just F'd up hunting lions.

The Zimbabwe Government is run by the greatest wako on earth - Mugabe -aka BOB - he has raped, murdered and stolen from the people of Zimbabwe for over 30 yrs. This is another ploy to get bunny huggers to let up on hunters so they will return with their money to Zimbabwe. There is no way they can cull 200 lions and they know it. They should cull Mugabe and solve this issues. My buddies that still live there claim that Cecil incident ruined the sport hunting in Zimbabwe - hunters cancelled hunts by the hundreds and are now avoiding the country like the plague.

[xcaliber]

Remember, it's sensationalism, not journalism anymore. It's all about sales, and viewers.

[papabear1]

Go figure !!!! Lets see how the news handles this one,

Dave

They will not cover it. Does not fit their narrative. Pretty sad. People are such Sheeple.

You sir, are so right,,,,,,

[Bullzeye]

This news article will go unnoticed because all the anti's will close their eyes.

[wildcatter]

Borders of refuge areas that meat hunting areas are one of my best advantage points. I took 2 of the three deer I killed the last week of season this way. You are not allowed to hunt on the north side of this creek, but as soon as they step in the water, there free pass is over,,,, I hunt pretty close, a spine shot @ 27 yards dropped this one on the spot!


The other one was a heart shot @42 yards so it made it 30 yards back on the side of safety,,,, but it was to late. If they want a buffer zone, don't post hunting zone beyond this point,,,,,, and if they don't want certain game animals safe,,,,keep em on a leash!

[paulaboutform]

Go figure !!!! Lets see how the news handles this one,

Dave

They will not cover it. Does not fit their narrative. Pretty sad. People are such Sheeple.

SHEEPLE! I love that and I may have to borrow it Mike.

Paul

[IronNoggin]

... The Zimbabwe Government is run by the greatest wako on earth - Mugabe -aka BOB - he has raped, murdered and stolen from the people of Zimbabwe for over 30 yrs. ...

They should cull Mugabe and solve this issues.

The exodus of hunters from Zim began long before the Cecil incident. I hunted there twice (as well as other countries) and enjoyed it. Then Mugabe went over the edge. Even my Buddies who lived there moved out. Certainly won't go back until he is well and DEAD! Evil SOB IMO.

Agree Strongly with all you said!

Cheers,
Nog

[rayman]

This thread made my day! Thanks!

[rayman]

Saw this editorial. Kind of long but thought you guys would like it.

In Zimbabwe, We Don’t Cry for Lions
By GOODWELL NZOU

August 4, 2015

Winston-Salem, N.C. — MY mind was absorbed by the biochemistry of gene editing when the text messages and Facebook posts distracted me.

So sorry about Cecil.

Did Cecil live near your place in Zimbabwe?

Cecil who? I wondered. When I turned on the news and discovered that the messages were about a lion killed by an American dentist, the village boy inside me instinctively cheered: One lion fewer to menace families like mine.

Protesters have called for the death of the hunter who killed Cecil the lion.

My excitement was doused when I realized that the lion killer was being painted as the villain. I faced the starkest cultural contradiction I’d experienced during my five years studying in the United States.

Did all those Americans signing petitions understand that lions actually kill people? That all the talk about Cecil being “beloved” or a “local favorite” was media hype? Did Jimmy Kimmel choke up because Cecil was murdered or because he confused him with Simba from “The Lion King”?

In my village in Zimbabwe, surrounded by wildlife conservation areas, no lion has ever been beloved, or granted an affectionate nickname. They are objects of terror.

When I was 9 years old, a solitary lion prowled villages near my home. After it killed a few chickens, some goats and finally a cow, we were warned to walk to school in groups and stop playing outside. My sisters no longer went alone to the river to collect water or wash dishes; my mother waited for my father and older brothers, armed with machetes, axes and spears, to escort her into the bush to collect firewood.

A week later, my mother gathered me with nine of my siblings to explain that her uncle had been attacked but escaped with nothing more than an injured leg. The lion sucked the life out of the village: No one socialized by fires at night; no one dared stroll over to a neighbor’s homestead.

When the lion was finally killed, no one cared whether its murderer was a local person or a white trophy hunter, whether it was poached or killed legally. We danced and sang about the vanquishing of the fearsome beast and our escape from serious harm.

Recently, a 14-year-old boy in a village not far from mine wasn’t so lucky. Sleeping in his family’s fields, as villagers do to protect crops from the hippos, buffalo and elephants that trample them, he was mauled by a lion and died.

The killing of Cecil hasn’t garnered much more sympathy from urban Zimbabweans, although they live with no such danger. Few have ever seen a lion, since game drives are a luxury residents of a country with an average monthly income below $150 cannot afford.

Don’t misunderstand me: For Zimbabweans, wild animals have near-mystical significance. We belong to clans, and each clan claims an animal totem as its mythological ancestor. Mine is Nzou, elephant, and by tradition, I can’t eat elephant meat; it would be akin to eating a relative’s flesh. But our respect for these animals has never kept us from hunting them or allowing them to be hunted. (I’m familiar with dangerous animals; I lost my right leg to a snakebite when I was 11.)

The American tendency to romanticize animals that have been given actual names and to jump onto a hashtag train has turned an ordinary situation — there were 800 lions legally killed over a decade by well-heeled foreigners who shelled out serious money to prove their prowess — into what seems to my Zimbabwean eyes an absurdist circus.

PETA is calling for the hunter to be hanged. Zimbabwean politicians are accusing the United States of staging Cecil’s killing as a “ploy” to make our country look bad. And Americans who can’t find Zimbabwe on a map are applauding the nation’s demand for the extradition of the dentist, unaware that a baby elephant was reportedly slaughtered for our president’s most recent birthday banquet.

We Zimbabweans are left shaking our heads, wondering why Americans care more about African animals than about African people.

Don’t tell us what to do with our animals when you allowed your own mountain lions to be hunted to near extinction in the eastern United States. Don’t bemoan the clear-cutting of our forests when you turned yours into concrete jungles.

And please, don’t offer me condolences about Cecil unless you’re also willing to offer me condolences for villagers killed or left hungry

[drkeenan]

It amazed me when this first came out how many hunters, archers, and shooters were ready to stand with the press and tree huggers, ranting how he gave archers a bad eye,,,,, I don't use guides but do hunt against wildlife refuge areas and trust me,,,,, if a petting zoo is close, they better keep their pet's on their side of the fence!!

I said it then and will say it again,,,,,, Cecil, Benny, rudolph whatever is in trouble on the land I can legally hunt,,,,,,,when that is my target animal, I think that's what they call hunting!!

Agreed. I hunt a property next to another who's owner feeds the deer. Guess which side of my property I set up on?