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Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by bigrak » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:45 pm

Is there any info. on this scope here? Could not find anything.
Is it any good?
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Re: Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by L. E. Carroll » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:10 pm

I have had experience with only 3 models of Excal scopes and the Dead Zone is my favorite... Very similar to the Vari-zone but more compact... The glass is decent all the way out to the edge. I find they gather light well at dawn and dusk, and other than the lack of a lighted recticle, I feel it's a fine scope as "package scopes" from Excal go.

There are up-grades available if you feel the desire for one... I went to Leupold Crossbones and 2 Hawke 1x5 XP30 SR Pros and am very satiaified.

I suggest you look thru a few and see which meets your needs. Keep in mind, crossbows are pretty short range, so I don't feel the need for the same class of glass as I have in the Leupods I have on my Varmint rifles, and the 300 Ultra Mag.

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Re: Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by Arrowflinger » Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:37 pm

My 350 LE came with the DeadZone. I think it is OK and serves its purpose as Gene replied. It has a main crosshair for your 20 yd.marker and under it is 4 chevrons representing 30,40,50,and 60yds. It seems to hold zero fairly well. My biggest issue with it I can't seem to get the crosshair and the target completely focused at the same time ,but I guess that could be a magnification issue or my bad eyes.You can definitely hit your target with it . I will use it for now. I've never looked through the upgrade scopes so I can't really compare it to one.
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Re: Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by L. E. Carroll » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:49 pm

Try holding the bow with the scope pointed up to the sky or at a light colored wall.... slowly turn the focus ring at the back of the scope until the crosshairs are as sharp as you can make them ...At this piont, with the limited distance the parralax is adjusted too for short range crossbow scopes both the target and the crosshairs shoud be clear out prehaps as far as 100 yards..

I hope that helps.
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Re: Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by Carnivorous » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:05 pm

If you have low or average optics expectations Chinese scopes will do the job.

If you have high expectations and demand flawless optics move up to a Leupold..
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Re: Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by Arrowflinger » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:24 pm

Thanks for trying to help again Gene as I recently posted my scope clarity issues. I can look up at the sky and get , adjust the eyepiece and get the crosshair as bold and crisp but when I look at the target say 30 or 40yds away it will be slightly fuzzy.but likewise while still looking at that same target I can adjust the eyepiece and get the target so clear I can read from it but now the crosshair will be fuzzy. I can't have the crosshair and the target focused crystal clear at the same time .hope all that rambling made sense :(
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Re: Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by L. E. Carroll » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:42 pm

It makes sence and perhaps there is an issue with your particular scope... That being a possibility ? I would advise you contact Danny Miller.... He will get you up and going in warranting your Dead-Zone or offering other Excal models as replacements or up-grades.
In the past he has offered the cost of of the questionable Exlcalibur scope towards the up-grade to a Leupold... Which I would reccomend. I have the Crossbones model and it's a great one. ( I don't think Danny has the Hawke series as possible up-grades ? But, if so ? I'm sure happy with the XB30 SR Pro's I have on my Micro and 380. :wink:

Let us know how this all works out for you.

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Re: Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by amythntr » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:59 pm

bellerivercrossbowhunter wrote:If you have low or average optics expectations Chinese scopes will do the job.

If you have high expectations and demand flawless optics move up to a Leupold..

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Re: Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by paulaboutform » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:14 pm

Arrowflinger wrote:Thanks for trying to help again Gene as I recently posted my scope clarity issues. I can look up at the sky and get , adjust the eyepiece and get the crosshair as bold and crisp but when I look at the target say 30 or 40yds away it will be slightly fuzzy.but likewise while still looking at that same target I can adjust the eyepiece and get the target so clear I can read from it but now the crosshair will be fuzzy. I can't have the crosshair and the target focused crystal clear at the same time .hope all that rambling made sense :(
Do you have any other scopes on rifles or shotguns? Before swapping out anything, do your due diligence and look through other scopes and see if you have this happen with them. If you do, it's not your scope.

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Re: Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by sproulman » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:29 pm

Arrowflinger wrote:Thanks for trying to help again Gene as I recently posted my scope clarity issues. I can look up at the sky and get , adjust the eyepiece and get the crosshair as bold and crisp but when I look at the target say 30 or 40yds away it will be slightly fuzzy.but likewise while still looking at that same target I can adjust the eyepiece and get the target so clear I can read from it but now the crosshair will be fuzzy. I can't have the crosshair and the target focused crystal clear at the same time .hope all that rambling made sense :(
Normal what you are seeing..To adjust scope in my opinion you have to do it say at 30 yds..Turn rear eye piece until target is clear and if you have trees behind target even better and crosshairs clear....I played with mine and after 3rd session shooting I found things clear ..Keep playing with it ....

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Re: Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by bigrak » Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:45 am

L. E. Carroll wrote:
There are up-grades available if you feel the desire for one... I went to Leupold Crossbones and 2 Hawke 1x5 XP30 SR Pros and am very satiaified.

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Re: Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by Boomer81 » Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:19 am

I currently use the dead zone that came with my 350le. Once zerod at 20yrds it shot great at 30 and 40yrds ith the respective chevrons.

I find the scope to be good quality and easy to zero. At 40yrds hitting 2inch group with stock diablos and 150gr field points i see no reason to change my setup. But i am going to be using this for deer hunting first and some targets in the back forty so if you plan on competing in 3d comps then i would suspect youd need to upgrade.

But for deer size kill zone i have no doubt this is not going to be the reason you miss lol
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Re: Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by L. E. Carroll » Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:25 am

Bigrak..
Choosing between the Leupold Crossbones and Hawke XB 30 SR Pro is a somewhat hard choice.... Both are close weight wise however the Crossbones seems a bit bigger physically. The Crossbones, as in any Leupold model, have excellent optics with very good clairity and crispness even though no illumination of the crosshairs is possible.
The ability to use lighted crosshairs very can be nice in the sometimes wet and dismal coastal areas of WA. where I hunt Elk and Blacktail. Thus the 380 and Micro wear the lighted Hawke XP's and the work exceptionally well under these conditions. ( being this is the area I hunt the most in a given season due to it's being my home region ) :roll: Can you tell I'm tired of the "Wet" ?

In Eastern and Central WA. while hunting Mule Deer every November.... it's pretty wide open and mostly dry :D :lol: ..... Under those conditions I prefer the Leupoold for it's clairty and sharpness :wink: .. Possibility it's a bit larger physically, but for me as I "still hunt" while traveling thru large areas of sagebrush and broken lava with pines and some brush intersperced, I prefer the the Crossbones, as it provides a bit more magnification at any given speed setting with it's 2x7 vrs. Hawke's 1x5 .... at 330 fps with the 355 the crossbones, I'm actually setting about 4x.

The Hawke's at the same speed are right at 2 1/8 -2 1/4x which I feel is ideal for woods hunting, but could be a bit higher for wide open spaces.

While hunting the units East of the Cascade Mountains we have to confirm the deer has 3 points on at least 1 side to be legal... They allow counting eye guards if they are at least 1" long. With my old eyes, that slight increase in the magnification provided by the Leupold helps determine between being legal or even having an "Eye Guard " point that meets the " requirement (as some areas I hunt, due to genetics, very seldom even have those "eye guard" points).

Those are my choices for the areas and conditions I hunt in. You will need to define what your looking for in a scope for the areas you hunt.... before buying, check out several models and features...

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Re: Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by bigrak » Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:38 am

I'm using the XB30 sr pro on my 405 and am happy with it. I was wondering about the Leupold possibly for my 350LE.

Thanks Gene for your helpful info.!
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Re: Excalibur Dead Zone scope.

Post by robertyb » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:05 pm

bigrak wrote:I'm using the XB30 sr pro on my 405 and am happy with it. I was wondering about the Leupold possibly for my 350LE.

Thanks Gene for your helpful info.!
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