Rethinking my shot??

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papabear1 wrote:It,s not in my makeup to sit and wonder what would happen if my deer died on anti hunters yard, I want to know what the situation is before it happens, so I can have a plan figured out beforehand, I would talk to anti hunter and explain
what could happen, then hear anti's side, then you would at least know where you stand, then plan ahead. :wink:

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A double lung shot deer usually runs about 90 yards max. A heart shot usually goes 90 to 150 yards. Picking between the two I would go with a DL shot everytime. No way would I take a head shot with a bow. We have all seen pictures of wounded deer with an arrow stuck in their heads and it is not a pretty sight.
I have had deer with a DL shot lay down and die without ever knowing they had been shot but for the most part they take a death run of 40 to 90 yards.
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xcaliber wrote:Contact DNR in your area in advance. Get a local officer if possible, and make sure they understand your situation. They may take the lead and talk to the neighbors for you.

....very good suggestion Dan....I like the being proactive part!

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Here in Michigan,the law states you cannot retrieve a deer off private property without the consent of the owner of the property. If the owner of the property refuses permission to retrieve the deer,he cannot legally keep the deer for himself even if he has a tag since he did not legally shoot the deer. I had this happen to me and the owner of the property denied me access to his property to recover my deer which was 10 feet inside his fence line. I contacted DNR and the guy was ticketed for possession of a deer he did not kill. Unfortunately DNR kept my deer.
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jd4223 wrote:Here in Michigan,the law states you cannot retrieve a deer off private property without the consent of the owner of the property. If the owner of the property refuses permission to retrieve the deer,he cannot legally keep the deer for himself even if he has a tag since he did not legally shoot the deer. I had this happen to me and the owner of the property denied me access to his property to recover my deer which was 10 feet inside his fence line. I contacted DNR and the guy was ticketed for possession of a deer he did not kill. Unfortunately DNR kept my deer.
Did they give him the chance to relent and give you access? Or was it too late by that point anyway? T

hat's good information to know and may help sway a landowner to allow you to get your deer.
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nchunterkw wrote: 2) Go for a double lung shot. In my experience a double lung shot puts a deer down faster than a low shot on the heart.
I totally agree. A good 2" 3-blade mechanical head through both lungs and they shouldn't make it 30 yards.

I've taken a couple spine shots from above on purpose with my ExoMax and there is obviously no tracking required on those. But accuracy is extremely important. When directly above, a spine shot is a lot easier to pull off than when a deer is say 30 yards away. There are options but the conditions at the time may determine which is best or if any are acceptable.

Its good that you are planning ahead for what can go wrong, because it occasionally does.

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Main problem with a spine shot is if you are off by even a 1/2" or so you end up with a single lung shot. If you make it the deer goes down immediately but quite often needs a follow up shot to kill it.
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robertyb wrote:Main problem with a spine shot is if you are off by even a 1/2" or so you end up with a single lung shot. If you make it the deer goes down immediately but quite often needs a follow up shot to kill it.
Been there and done that... :shock:
just like a head shot? would hate to see the deer run into the antis yard with an arrow sticking in its head! :roll:
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To each their own, but I will never take a headshot on a deer with a bow. One honest flinch (hey we aren't perfect) and you have a sheetshow. If I or my family were starving and that was the only shot presented to me, well that would be another story.
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Your first priority should be to respect the animal you are hunting. Respect the animal by taking high percentage shots that lead to the quickest death possible with as little pain and suffering as possible giving yourself the largest margin of error possible given the circumstances. Scopes get knocked around and screws loosen. Your last shot, though it was perfect, might have been the one that sent the crosshairs off an inch or so. Every week it seems this forum has a post on mounting screws that have come loose. And besides that, a deer moves their head quicker than the rest of their body. These animals are not store bought stationary targets. There are consequences with a slight miss. I've seen multiple people shoot deer in the head with a .30-06 and those deer did not always die right away. There is a lot of area on the head of a deer that isn't made up of brain matter. Watching an animal needlessly suffer because someone tried to replicate a bench rest shot they pulled off on a commercial target at the range is a grotesque scene.

These may be suburban deer and they may be a nuisance to property owners but they still deserve respect. Your goal should be a shot that passes through the vitals doing the most damage possible, a shot that leads to death quickly. Yes, deer can run a long ways in five to ten seconds, but any desire to avoid an uncomfortable situation doesn't outweigh the respect the animal deserves.
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I might suggest shooting from an elevated height if your not already doing so.... There's less chance of a pass-thru traveling to far into someones yard and a shot from above allows a low exit point to dump excess blood fast and make possible a good blood trail... I would hate to have to go thru several back yards looking for a deer with little or no blood trail... The elevated height will also get your pass-thru into the dirt real quick.

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If deer are coming from his land to and from then most likely they will head there when shot..So I would just figure that will happen ...
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Shot at a doe this morning. Arrow hit a tree limb so I missed. It was a clean miss so there was no wounded deer.

Going for a double lung shot.

I'll try again in the morning.

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Man, I'm in this exact scenario at the moment. Picked up permission from a relative to hunt their 3.88 acre property because deer are tearing up their yard. Unfortunately, one neighbor feeds and watches the deer but luckily the property on the opposite side is 50 acres of open land. I too would like to be able to keep the deer on my relative's property after the shot but it is only approximately 80 yards wide by 300 yards long. I'm scared to death that they will run onto the neighbors property and I'm trying my best to keep a low profile. I've thought about the best shot placement constantly since getting permission and scouting the property. I was seriously considering a spine shot since the main trail passes right under a climbable tree but I just don't know if I have it in me to try to pull it off. After reading all of the responses to this I think I'll just go for a double lung and hope for the best.
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