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Post by Boo » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:26 am

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Post by paulaboutform » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:35 pm

Hmmm, so if I read correctly, the biodiversity is having a dangerous detrimental affect on the indigenous species. The non indigenous species appear harmless but are threatening extinction of many indigenous species. This sounds very familiar and is indeed interesting...... :?: now I remember, this is exactly what Justin Trudeau is doing to us presently with his refugee and immigration policies! :mrgreen:
sorry buddy, I couldn't help myself....I was actually very surprised by the article.

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Post by Boo » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:55 pm

paulaboutform wrote:Hmmm, so if I read correctly, the biodiversity is having a dangerous detrimental affect on the indigenous species. The non indigenous species appear harmless but are threatening extinction of many indigenous species. This sounds very familiar and is indeed interesting...... :?: now I remember, this is exactly what Justin Trudeau is doing to us presently with his refugee and immigration policies! :mrgreen:
sorry buddy, I couldn't help myself....I was actually very surprised by the article.

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The article is basically saying that domesticated cats are much more efficient predators than the predators that our native species evolved with. I've been told this many times in the past but I'm surprised to read the numbers.
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Post by Carnivorous » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:16 pm

The wife's cat is an indoor cat. Good thing because she is the psycho kitty from hell and would do some major killing if she had the chance!!
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Post by Minnow » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:22 pm

Interesting article, in a perfect world where everybody spays and neuters their pets and keeps them indoors it may make a difference. Now my parents are in a situation that relates to this exactly, they live on a rural road up in the kawarthas that has 6 houses on it. 3 years back a young family moved in across the street and have cats that they leave lose to roam free, the cats aren't fixed and they have been reproducing like crazy. My dad has found dead kittens in our shed on a couple of occasions. Their is noticeably less song birds around. Problem is that these people aren't reasonable, they are the type of people that had their dog taken away by the humane society for neglect and just went out right after and bought a new puppy.

I'm sorry to ramble on but the problem is that I love pets and don't want to hurt their cats (they'd just replace it anyways) but what is a person to do in a situation like this?
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Post by dutchhunter » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:23 pm

House cats are extremely dangerous for birds and small animals all over Ontario. Just drive down any gravel road at night and you can see the. Hunting alone the ditches. When I set traps for coon with any meat type bait I get slugs the cats first so anytime is am near houses I use sweet bait instead of meat baits.all small game lic should come with a stipulations that you must shoot all faral cats found in the bush
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Post by SEW » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:34 pm

Haven't read it yet but couldn't but help think of European immigration policies. And Canada and the Obama/Clinton agenda.

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Post by papabear1 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:20 pm

Minnow wrote:Interesting article, in a perfect world where everybody spays and neuters their pets and keeps them indoors it may make a difference. Now my parents are in a situation that relates to this exactly, they live on a rural road up in the kawarthas that has 6 houses on it. 3 years back a young family moved in across the street and have cats that they leave lose to roam free, the cats aren't fixed and they have been reproducing like crazy. My dad has found dead kittens in our shed on a couple of occasions. Their is noticeably less song birds around. Problem is that these people aren't reasonable, they are the type of people that had their dog taken away by the humane society for neglect and just went out right after and bought a new puppy.

I'm sorry to ramble on but the problem is that I love pets and don't want to hurt their cats (they'd just replace it anyways) but what is a person to do in a situation like this?
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Re: OT but very interesting

Post by Minnow » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:37 pm

papabear1 wrote:
Gamo anyone :?: :mrgreen:

Gamo? Air rifle? I've debated it.... But they'll just get more cats
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Post by rayman » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:00 am

One of our dogs gets lucky and kills a squirrel in the yard occasionally. I should register them as non-native predatory mammals. :) Actually they are getting old and its been quite a while since they have taken a squirrel.

Good article. My wife majored in wildlife ecology and she hates cats for this exact reason. It used to seem like feral cats were all over Florida and you would see them everywhere. Maybe the coyotes keep them thinned out now.

Florida has tons of invasive exotics. Invasive plants are everywhere. Cogongrass, Japanese climbing fern, tallow, mimosa, air potato vine, kudzu, just to name a few, which are very difficult to control. Can't stay up late any more, but used to gig and bow-fish at night and would see a lot of fish that are not native and look like overgrown aquarium fish, which is what they are. New non-native forest pests and diseases turn up occasionally, the latest of which is killing the red bay in my area wholesale.

We've only had a couple of cats show up in the last 14 years. Their stay tends to be short as the dogs have a way of making them feel unwelcome.

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Post by j.krug » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:57 pm

Minnow wrote:
papabear1 wrote:
Gamo anyone :?: :mrgreen:

Gamo? Air rifle? I've debated it.... But they'll just get more cats
....so get more pellets!! :lol:
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Re: OT but very interesting

Post by MTBighorn » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:45 pm

j.krug wrote:
Minnow wrote:
papabear1 wrote:
Gamo anyone :?: :mrgreen:

Gamo? Air rifle? I've debated it.... But they'll just get more cats
If you are lucky they will!! :lol:



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....so get more pellets!! :lol:
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Post by Bullzeye » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:16 pm

Cats in Montreal now have to be registered just like dogs, and must stay on your property. Not sure how they are going to be able to enforce that, but the poor cats now have to eat birds at home, and cannot go out to eat.
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Post by sproulman » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:25 pm

Eagles kill our cats here..Only place there is cats is in towns..

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