Firebolt Changes
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Firebolt Changes
Installed the Black Eagle 110 grain Brass Inserts in my 20" Firebolt arrows. Using a Nufletch Ignitor lighted nock at 39gr. and a 100 gr. mechanical broadhead. According to my Balance Beam reloading scale that combination weighs in at 479.2gr.
As a comparison if using the Excalibur flat front nock,110gr. brass insert and 100gr. broadhead the weight is 459.5gr.
The combination of the Excalibur factory aluminum insert, Nufletch Ignitor lighted nock at 39gr., and 100gr. broadhead weighs in at 394.5gr.
Using my best efforts my estimated FOC is around 16 using the Nufletch Ignitor lighted nock at 39gr.,100gr. broadhead and 110gr. brass insert .
Using this diagram my measurements were:
Balance Point 9"
A- 13.58"
L- 20.5"
Sound close?? I think I am where I need to be.
Bill
As a comparison if using the Excalibur flat front nock,110gr. brass insert and 100gr. broadhead the weight is 459.5gr.
The combination of the Excalibur factory aluminum insert, Nufletch Ignitor lighted nock at 39gr., and 100gr. broadhead weighs in at 394.5gr.
Using my best efforts my estimated FOC is around 16 using the Nufletch Ignitor lighted nock at 39gr.,100gr. broadhead and 110gr. brass insert .
Using this diagram my measurements were:
Balance Point 9"
A- 13.58"
L- 20.5"
Sound close?? I think I am where I need to be.
Bill
Last edited by ko4nrbs on Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:27 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Excalibur Firebolt Arrows
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Carbon Express Torrid SS 100 gr. Broadheads
Summit Viper SD Climbing Tree Stand with Sherpa Hunting cart kit
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Re: Firebolt Changes
Your A & L numbers do not seem to be correct.
Your balance point length is more than the total length of arrow.
L=Correct Arrow Length
A=Arrow Length to Balance point
Your balance point length is more than the total length of arrow.
L=Correct Arrow Length
A=Arrow Length to Balance point
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Re: Firebolt Changes
The A
My mistake!!
A=13 5/8"
Estimated FOC-16??
Bill
Excalibur Exomax Crossbow Twlight DLX scope
Excalibur Firebolt Arrows
NuFletch Ignitor Nocks
Carbon Express Torrid SS 100 gr. Broadheads
Summit Viper SD Climbing Tree Stand with Sherpa Hunting cart kit
U.S. Navy 1969-1973 USS Truxtun DLGN-35
Excalibur Firebolt Arrows
NuFletch Ignitor Nocks
Carbon Express Torrid SS 100 gr. Broadheads
Summit Viper SD Climbing Tree Stand with Sherpa Hunting cart kit
U.S. Navy 1969-1973 USS Truxtun DLGN-35
Re: Firebolt Changes
yes on FOC=16.77
Matrix 355----Scorpion
Hawke XB1
DrStirrup Products All
nchunterkw,Boo strings
Steelforce B.H.
Magnus B.H. Ser-Razor 125 gr.
SPYNAL TAPP
Nufletch Ignitors
NockOut Lighted Nocks
Hawke XB1
DrStirrup Products All
nchunterkw,Boo strings
Steelforce B.H.
Magnus B.H. Ser-Razor 125 gr.
SPYNAL TAPP
Nufletch Ignitors
NockOut Lighted Nocks
Re: Firebolt Changes
Thanks!!
Always wanted to move up in arrow weight so I made the plunge. Now to do some serious shooting and see what difference it makes.
Bill
Excalibur Exomax Crossbow Twlight DLX scope
Excalibur Firebolt Arrows
NuFletch Ignitor Nocks
Carbon Express Torrid SS 100 gr. Broadheads
Summit Viper SD Climbing Tree Stand with Sherpa Hunting cart kit
U.S. Navy 1969-1973 USS Truxtun DLGN-35
Excalibur Firebolt Arrows
NuFletch Ignitor Nocks
Carbon Express Torrid SS 100 gr. Broadheads
Summit Viper SD Climbing Tree Stand with Sherpa Hunting cart kit
U.S. Navy 1969-1973 USS Truxtun DLGN-35
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Re: Firebolt Changes
Garrett weaver has a good F.O.C explanation.
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Re: Firebolt Changes
Remember the firebolts are a heavier shaft...more gpi. If you were to change to a zombie or executioner wich both are lighter stiffer and stronger you would be in the 410-430 grain range
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Re: Firebolt Changes
If I didn't have a closet full of Firebolts I would seriously consider the Zombies or Executioners. I guess I could go with a lighter brass insert to get the weight down a little.longbow joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:44 pmRemember the firebolts are a heavier shaft...more gpi. If you were to change to a zombie or executioner wich both are lighter stiffer and stronger you would be in the 410-430 grain range
Bill
Excalibur Exomax Crossbow Twlight DLX scope
Excalibur Firebolt Arrows
NuFletch Ignitor Nocks
Carbon Express Torrid SS 100 gr. Broadheads
Summit Viper SD Climbing Tree Stand with Sherpa Hunting cart kit
U.S. Navy 1969-1973 USS Truxtun DLGN-35
Excalibur Firebolt Arrows
NuFletch Ignitor Nocks
Carbon Express Torrid SS 100 gr. Broadheads
Summit Viper SD Climbing Tree Stand with Sherpa Hunting cart kit
U.S. Navy 1969-1973 USS Truxtun DLGN-35
Re: Firebolt Changes
If you go with a lighter brass insert, then your FOC will also change, most likely to a lower FOC.ko4nrbs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:29 amIf I didn't have a closet full of Firebolts I would seriously consider the Zombies or Executioners. I guess I could go with a lighter brass insert to get the weight down a little.longbow joe wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:44 pmRemember the firebolts are a heavier shaft...more gpi. If you were to change to a zombie or executioner wich both are lighter stiffer and stronger you would be in the 410-430 grain range
Bill
Heavy arrows wt. & higher FOC are not a bad thing IMO.
Matrix 355----Scorpion
Hawke XB1
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nchunterkw,Boo strings
Steelforce B.H.
Magnus B.H. Ser-Razor 125 gr.
SPYNAL TAPP
Nufletch Ignitors
NockOut Lighted Nocks
Hawke XB1
DrStirrup Products All
nchunterkw,Boo strings
Steelforce B.H.
Magnus B.H. Ser-Razor 125 gr.
SPYNAL TAPP
Nufletch Ignitors
NockOut Lighted Nocks
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Re: Firebolt Changes
I had a bunch of firebolts before the zombies l switched to a 110 grain insert and 125 grain cabellas lazer strike ll. Them things would fly great and penitrate like the bigger bows out of my vixen and ibex. There is nothing wrong with being a little heavier at all.use them with total confidence
Vixen 2, metal ibex,Phoenix,sapphire,matrix 330 ,matrix 355 ,vortex and baby grand piano y25 relayer.
Trigger tecs,leupold crossbones and nikon bolts.
Zombie slayers and mostly swat broadheads.
Trigger tecs,leupold crossbones and nikon bolts.
Zombie slayers and mostly swat broadheads.
Re: Firebolt Changes
Thank you!!longbow joe wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:24 amI had a bunch of firebolts before the zombies l switched to a 110 grain insert and 125 grain cabellas lazer strike ll. Them things would fly great and penitrate like the bigger bows out of my vixen and ibex. There is nothing wrong with being a little heavier at all.use them with total confidence
I will try them out. I really like Brass inserts.
Bill
Excalibur Exomax Crossbow Twlight DLX scope
Excalibur Firebolt Arrows
NuFletch Ignitor Nocks
Carbon Express Torrid SS 100 gr. Broadheads
Summit Viper SD Climbing Tree Stand with Sherpa Hunting cart kit
U.S. Navy 1969-1973 USS Truxtun DLGN-35
Excalibur Firebolt Arrows
NuFletch Ignitor Nocks
Carbon Express Torrid SS 100 gr. Broadheads
Summit Viper SD Climbing Tree Stand with Sherpa Hunting cart kit
U.S. Navy 1969-1973 USS Truxtun DLGN-35