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Considering switching to fixed blade from mechanical

Post by WNCTracker » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:40 pm

I’ve been displeased with rage crossbow X 125 gr broadheads. Last night on a quartering deer I didn’t get a pass through and in general I don’t seem to get good blood trails so I’m considering fixed blade but would like some input from folks with more experience than me. The G5 montec 125 looks to be pretty reputable, as does the 150 bolt cutter. I’m shooting a matrix 350 with Flemish string and 400 gr total weight diablo. Should I switch to fixed?

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Re: Considering switching to fixed blade from mechanical

Post by Jim M » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:57 pm

I tried the Montecs while still shooting a vertical.. Hit a WV buck in the shoulder and got no penetration. The Montec bent over in the front. They also seemed hard to sharpen. I've been using Slick Trick Magnums and they've done a nice job, while hitting right with my fieldpoints. I thought about trying QAD Exodus this year, but didn't. They seem to get great reviews. I shoot a slow crossbow, so what works for me might not work for you.
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Re: Considering switching to fixed blade from mechanical

Post by jd4223 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:04 pm

I use the Excalibur 150grn Boltcutter fixed blade. Always had complete pass throughs as long as I was using an aluminum arrow. The last deer I shot,I used a carbon arrow(Deer Crossing Arrow) with the Boltcutter. Shot the deer broadside at approx. 18 yards from a ground blind. Hit the deer a little high but still a double lung shot. The arrow did not pass through completely. Had 11 inches of arrow (from a 20 inc arrow)still inside the deer. Had about 4 inches from the fletching end of the arrow sticking out the entrance side and 5 inches of arrow with the broadhead sticking out the other side. The deer rolled down a small incline snapping the arrow off on both sides. No blood trail since all the blood pooled inside the deer. Luckily the deer died within 10 yards of where she was shot. Since then,I switched back to aluminum arrows.

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Re: Considering switching to fixed blade from mechanical

Post by whoay » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:33 pm

NAP hellrazor are my go to broadhead 100gr shooting out of matrix 350 complete pass thru last year... dont have to worry if it's gonna open or not it's cutting on contact..

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Re: Considering switching to fixed blade from mechanical

Post by hunter with MS » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:30 am

I have been using muzzy trocar 100 and 125 . I switched this year to Excalibur x act had no problem going through my deer quartering away in fact broke a rib entrance side .

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Re: Considering switching to fixed blade from mechanical

Post by papabear1 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:57 am

hunter with MS wrote:
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I have been using muzzy trocar 100 and 125 . I switched this year to Excalibur x act had no problem going through my deer quartering away in fact broke a rib entrance side .
hunter do the exacts shoot the same as f/points ?

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Re: Considering switching to fixed blade from mechanical

Post by nchunterkw » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:06 am

I shoot RamCat 125gr heads and really like the terminal performance. Other good fixed blades are Slick Trick Magnums, and Magnus black hornets or stingers. The Montec CS fly great but are hard to sharpen and I never got good blood wit them. I did kill a bison with that head from my Vortex. Penetration comes from proper arrow design, If you have a heavy arrow with decent FOC penetration should not be an issue with any fixed head
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Re: Considering switching to fixed blade from mechanical

Post by XB I GO » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:09 am

When my Dad had sponsors we always had a ton of different broadheads showing up. He shot wood boards and ballistic panels and gel. He said if you get crazy you can make any one of them "fail". We use the American Broadhead Company Sonic Bolt. It is 150 grains. When we run out of them we are going to probably switch to their Sonic Pro or Liberty that comes in 100 and 125 grain. On our regular bows we use the standard Sonic. Basically, these are 3 little blades that are forced forward from the back and put pressure on each other at the tip. It is a true cut-on-contact and the blades are thick (not the sharpened part). We have never broke a blade and sometimes they zip through a deer and you could reuse them. One time we were just going to go out for the last few minutes and we ended up getting a deer. My Dad field dressed it with the broadhead. They come with an unsharpened one for practice. You can buy replacement blades and keep using the ferrules. If you weigh the blades you will see they are always the same. We check the ferrules because sometimes they are a grain or two different. Look at them here:

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Re: Considering switching to fixed blade from mechanical

Post by Deaf jeff » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:38 am

WNCTracker wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:40 pm
I’ve been displeased with rage crossbow X 125 gr broadheads. Last night on a quartering deer I didn’t get a pass through and in general I don’t seem to get good blood trails so I’m considering fixed blade but would like some input from folks with more experience than me. The G5 montec 125 looks to be pretty reputable, as does the 150 bolt cutter. I’m shooting a matrix 350 with Flemish string and 400 gr total weight diablo. Should I switch to fixed?
seem to see this complaint about rage bh's often (was my experience years ago) went back to spitfires now with my 355 (vortex before that) and have not had any issues with premature opening, lack of blood trail or penetration,accuracy is excellent. my arrows are about 385gr total weight with the 100 grain head. i have a self imposed range limit of 35 yards when hunting
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Re: Considering switching to fixed blade from mechanical

Post by gerald strine » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:27 pm

I shoot the Slick Trick X Bow heads and they are very tough, fly great, and have replaceable blades, have always gotten pass troughs with bows rated at 350 fps.
The tip is not going to roll over on any deer bone, I often kill many deer with one head I just but in new blades.
Blood trails very but it is not the heads fault.

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Re: Considering switching to fixed blade from mechanical

Post by IronNoggin » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:28 pm

Spitfire 125's for me.
Forever that is.
Fly like my field points, leave huge entrance / exit holes, and excellent & SHORT blood trails.
No reason to switch.

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Re: Considering switching to fixed blade from mechanical

Post by Boo » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:12 pm

The Exodus and the Ram Cats both have the shortest ferrules which will give you broadheads that are accurate and less likely to bend. I like the 1" standard Slick Tricks for their accuracy. They make holes as big as much larger broadheads.
I use G5 Striker Magnums. They are the sharpest broadheads I've ever handled but they need to be precisely aligned to the arrow shaft because they are a 1.5" cut.
Whatever fixed you get, make sure you align them. You are far more likely to get a fixed broadhead to fly accurately and have the same POI as field points if you do so. It's a very simple process.
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Re: Considering switching to fixed blade from mechanical

Post by Onetimeonly x--> » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:15 pm

G5 Striker for me, shot placement is key. Heck a sharp rock on the end of a stick has taken many a game...
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Re: Considering switching to fixed blade from mechanical

Post by xcaliber » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:56 am

There are so many good ones to choose from these days, and they all will do the job if the shot placement is good. I like Muzzy Trokar fixed, NAP Thunderhead, Slick Tricks, any of them, Ang the G5 mentioned are very good. They make heads for Bass Pro Shops, and Cabelas that are very sharp, and fly great but at a better price. Blackouts, and Copperheads.
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