String /cable stretch question

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String /cable stretch question

Post by longbow joe » Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:58 pm

My only experience with crossbows as ownership goes is with excalibur recurves l am a simple person and coming from stick bows excalibur was an easy choice. Anyway l have used strings from basically all of our string makers all were good. But even their best materials stretched as we all know.
I was wondering about how much does a string /cable system stretch on a modern ravin or any of the new fast bows ...l assume the average guy just puts his in a closet and doesn't worry much anyway but just curious.
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Re: String /cable stretch question

Post by Goose52 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:43 am

i can't answer ur question joe. all i know is that the guy who got me into crossbows by lending me his wheelie to take a nice buck i had hanging around camp never takes me up on my offers to come shoot or sight in with me. he takes one shot before season and never practices. of course, he has to shoot to decock. he is a deer and gun nut who shoots various calibers year round. was thinking it was my breath or beer flavor but it finally dawned on me it was his wheels and cables that kept him from shooting more. last i talked to him he was looking at a ravin and i thought he said that it doesn't have to be shot to be decocked but i'm 100% on that.
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Re: String /cable stretch question

Post by flightattendant100 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:53 am

Longbow Joe, I was hoping some of the other forum members would chime in that have more experience than I do. I have a Bowtech/Excal Offspring. I got it because Danny Miller loves them and because they got down in price so low that I couldn't say no. Danny has told me that to shoot a lot, like a 3D shooter, the decreased effort to cock is a huge deal. These bows can be uncocked just like your Excal bow. So they shoot fast,360 fps.380 gr. min. arrow weight, are easy to cock 150 lb. dr.weight and you can uncock them..... Danny does not like the way that the cables attach ( they are directly around the axle) so he put clips on them and shorter cables, so that they are easier to tune. So I asked him how often do you have to tune them to keep them shooting well...He said that with quality string and cables ( he says Bowtech stuff is NOT), after they are broken in and tuned that shooting a bunch, you should be able to shoot 9 month to a year before there would need to be another tune. I don't know if this is correct or not as Mine have not been to Danny to be "Millerized" yet but it is what Danny said. Also after the addition of his clips, it is much easier to tune. I know that Boo has one or more of these and paulaboutform has the Frankenbow that is based on one of these. A PM to either might get you much better first hand info. I think also that not shooting a huge fixed blade broadhead, and shooting at more traditional ranges will help with the out of tune issue.
Either way, at what the Offsprings were selling for, I bit. So I guess we will see shortly.

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Re: String /cable stretch question

Post by flightattendant100 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:58 am

Goose52 wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:43 am
i can't answer ur question joe. all i know is that the guy who got me into crossbows by lending me his wheelie to take a nice buck i had hanging around camp never takes me up on my offers to come shoot or sight in with me. he takes one shot before season and never practices. of course, he has to shoot to decock. he is a deer and gun nut who shoots various calibers year round. was thinking it was my breath or beer flavor but it finally dawned on me it was his wheels and cables that kept him from shooting more. last i talked to him he was looking at a ravin and i thought he said that it doesn't have to be shot to be decocked but i'm 100% on that.
I have seen forum member paulaboutform shoot his Frankenbow at the Boofest100. Trust me wheeled bows can shoot! They can shoot fast, accurate, and they are easy to cock. Now how much more maintenance is required I am not sure.

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Re: String /cable stretch question

Post by robertyb » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:20 am

longbow joe wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:58 pm
My only experience with crossbows as ownership goes is with excalibur recurves l am a simple person and coming from stick bows excalibur was an easy choice. Anyway l have used strings from basically all of our string makers all were good. But even their best materials stretched as we all know.
I was wondering about how much does a string /cable system stretch on a modern ravin or any of the new fast bows ...l assume the average guy just puts his in a closet and doesn't worry much anyway but just curious.
I have a 2017 model Scorpyd DS and the strings and cables on it do not stretch enough to pay any attention to compared to our Excals. I might put a twist or so in a cable or string once a year but it really depends on what string materials are used. Mine are 8190 and it does not stretch much if any. My Excaliburs are becoming closet queens since I started shooting the Scorpyd.
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Re: String /cable stretch question

Post by vixenmaster » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:51 am

I have several Compound style crossbows n have made strings fer them. Stretch yes abit as any crossbow will do over a period of time n shots put through them. I have shot my MXB320 couple thousand times, n have only had to put 2 twists n same wid the yoke cables. I have reserved that string. I flip string every 250 shots. I use n hunt n hunt wid my Excals, but also use n hunt wid my MXB's. Good material will help go a long way to keep the stretch at a minimum. I shoot Pipsqueak more now to practice wid than my others. Reason is its so easy fer me to rope cock. My others i have to use a crank can now. I can rope cock all of my MXB's as they are easier because of the Cam letoff.

I am goin to add a few things here on my ownin n buyin crossbows. I have owned most of Excals models, i have not owned the BD nor the Assassin. I have owned the old style cast Risers n the Straight Risers n the Forward Risers, the Matrix n Micro's.
Compound Crossbows i only own MXB's now as they meet my requirements. I can rope n crank cock them. NO press needed to work on them completely. They can be uncocked, can change strings, i have the models that are short n compact n most comfortable huntin from my Climber. They don't go out of tune fast at all, i can shoot mine 450-600 times n ck to see if'en the string stretched. That still does not make them go out of tune, it jus loses a few fps.
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