150 grain Boltcutters on Zombie Slayers for bear?

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150 grain Boltcutters on Zombie Slayers for bear?

Post by Montana Mark » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:45 pm

Spring bear season is just a few weeks away and I want to hunt the problem bear that terrorizes my place every spring and fall. I bought some 18” Zombie Slayers from Wyvern. Not sure of the exact specifics but they were the Zombies specifically made for Excalibur bows. I believe they are 300 grain (with 110 grain inserts) designed to use 100 grain heads. I have a bunch of 150 grain Boltcutters and would like to use them on the Zombies. They would be 450 grain (actually more with luminoks) and pretty heavy FOC. My bow shoots 326 with 350 grain arrows, 311 with 400 grain. Do you all think this setup would be good for my bear hunt? I will likely be taking a close shot (no more than 20-30 yards). Btw, zombies won’t be here till next week so haven’t shot them yet. Looking forward to it.
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Re: 150 grain Boltcutters on Zombie Slayers for bear?

Post by vixenmaster » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:54 pm

I spect wid that weight n boltcutters it will certainly kill yer Bear
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Re: 150 grain Boltcutters on Zombie Slayers for bear?

Post by galamb » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:01 pm

If you have never shot a bear with a bow just be aware that it's almost impossible to shoot through their leg bone.

When a bear is broadside to you the most lethal shot is right through the vitals when they step their front leg (on your side) forward.

That leaves the vitals totally exposed.
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Re: 150 grain Boltcutters on Zombie Slayers for bear?

Post by SEW » Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:44 am

I think your proposed setup will be very good.

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Re: 150 grain Boltcutters on Zombie Slayers for bear?

Post by paulaboutform » Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:17 pm

That setup will be fine. Bears are not that thick skinned. They can have a dense, long coat and heavy muscle and bone mass depending on the size and age. The main factor is shot placement. Other than that bears are not difficult to kill. Good luck.

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Post by Normous » Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:40 pm

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Re: 150 grain Boltcutters on Zombie Slayers for bear?

Post by Montana Mark » Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:41 pm

About shot placement. I read an article about the bear's vitals being closer to the middle of the animal compared to deer. This article said that rather than aiming behind the shoulder (as in a deer), aim for the "middle of the middle" (i.e. basically the middle of the body mass). I read that and figured I would aim at the front half, but not necessarily behind the shoulder. Does this ring true to anyone?
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Re: 150 grain Boltcutters on Zombie Slayers for bear?

Post by paulaboutform » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:32 pm

Hmmmm, :eusa-think: I can't attest to the mid body shot. I can say that I've killed a good number of bears and most shots were behind the front shoulder. :mrgreen:

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Re: 150 grain Boltcutters on Zombie Slayers for bear?

Post by IronNoggin » Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:55 pm

Montana Mark wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:41 pm
About shot placement. I read an article about the bear's vitals being closer to the middle of the animal compared to deer. This article said that rather than aiming behind the shoulder (as in a deer), aim for the "middle of the middle" (i.e. basically the middle of the body mass). I read that and figured I would aim at the front half, but not necessarily behind the shoulder. Does this ring true to anyone?
No. It does not "ring true" for me.
I only kill larger boars.
I would NEVER take the shot you suggest.
Simply because I like to keep on breathing! :wink:

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Tight behind the shoulder, preferably with the onside leg in the forward position.

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Re: 150 grain Boltcutters on Zombie Slayers for bear?

Post by Big John » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:18 pm

GORGEOUS RUG!!!!
Beauty Matt. I am aiming for just the right one for past 3 yrs . I have seen him, almost got a shot at him , but he is still waiting for me out there just gettin bigger!!! If you want a rug, make it a good one!😎
As far as posters question, arrows he wants to use are fine, but he needs to get a nice slightly quarting away ,front leg forward a bit , and send the arrow!!!

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Re: 150 grain Boltcutters on Zombie Slayers for bear?

Post by Montana Mark » Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:06 pm

Thanks for the invaluable advise on shot placement. I definitely want to place the best shot I can.
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Re: 150 grain Boltcutters on Zombie Slayers for bear?

Post by Montana Mark » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:24 pm

I just got my zombie slayers from wyvern and love them! I ordered more. Dave told me they weigh 430 grain with 100 grain tips. That puts me at 480 grain (and heavy FOC) with my setup. The zombies shoot soooo much better than diablos it's amazing. I put 150 grain field tips on the zombies and had to turn my speed dial way down. I was grouping great at 70 yards (using 30 yard zero on the dead zone scope). 480 grain and heavy foc seems to fly great for me.

Edit: I just weighed the arrows with my wife’s cooking scale (??she doesn’t cook??) and converted grams to grains. The zombies weigh 463 with 150 grain tips. I measured the foc and it was 24%. Btw, did I say that they fly great? They fly awesome.
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Re: 150 grain Boltcutters on Zombie Slayers for bear?

Post by IronNoggin » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:07 pm

Big John wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:18 pm
GORGEOUS RUG!!!!
Beauty Matt. I am aiming for just the right one for past 3 yrs . I have seen him, almost got a shot at him , but he is still waiting for me out there just gettin bigger!!!
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Re: 150 grain Boltcutters on Zombie Slayers for bear?

Post by foofoo » Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:43 pm

there is an article about aiming for the middle of the middle. i remember seeing it and the guide promoted never a lost bear using that idea.the idea being not to overthink and staying away from the shoulder.the lungs go further back in bear anatomy was what they were saying.being a deer hunter mostly doing that is so different...

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