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string silencers

Post by henrycohunter » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:21 am

I own a matrix grz, been told the r.e.m. string silencer does not work on my bow.
What are my options? Thanks

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Re: string silencers

Post by georgiaboy » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:41 am

I don’t use anything on my string. You will loose a few FPS not much but minimal. I’ve never noticed that much of a sound difference with them on so the trade off isn’t worth it to me.
All I have on my bows are the RED’s string stops. Again this is just my opinion. :D
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Re: string silencers

Post by Boo » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:48 am

The effectiveness of silencers are dependent on your expectations and your hearing. If you're a geezer, worked on a noisy environment or shot much without hearing protection, there are certain frequencies you just will not appreciate. Silencers not only lower noise but they lower recoil. The reality is that no amount of silencing will buy you a deer. The effort is only worth it if you lower noise and shock for yourself.
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Re: string silencers

Post by amythntr » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:35 pm

Boo wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:48 am
The effectiveness of silencers are dependent on your expectations and your hearing. If you're a geezer, worked on a noisy environment or shot much without hearing protection, there are certain frequencies you just will not appreciate. Silencers not only lower noise but they lower recoil. The reality is that no amount of silencing will buy you a deer. The effort is only worth it if you lower noise and shock for yourself.
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Re: string silencers

Post by ComfyBear » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:44 pm

Crossbow are inherently noisy, and no amount of accessories is going to change that fact. So I don't worry about their noise level. However, I feel that these "sound reducers" have a place on my crossbows. Even though they reduce their speed, the fact that they reduce vibration is important to me. Having owned much slower crossbows than those that are available today, hasn't affected my hunting success rate. Therefore I'm not interested in owning speed-demons. What I do want is a reliable bow that is accurate and stays that way. It has been said that speed kills, the problem with it is that it will also "kills" your bow. That is why I build heavier strings, use heavier arrows, and avail myself with as many "vibration suppressing" devices available.

So to answer your question, string silencers do work if you want to reduce vibration, and are not concerned about reduced arrow speed.
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Re: string silencers

Post by nchunter » Tue Aug 20, 2019 3:27 pm

As ComfyBear said, heavier arrows and fatter strings reduce vibration noise noticeably.

Additionally, I found that putting an 1/8” (3mm, for you Canadians) thick urethane or hard rubber spacer between the stirrup and the rail helps keep vibrations from traveling to the stirrup.

Some wrap/coat the stirrup in rubber to reduce this “tuning fork” effect, but the inside of my stirrup is barely big enough for my boot as it is.

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Re: string silencers

Post by catclr » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:28 pm

I have gone back to using BRUSH BUTTONS, like I used on my old recurve bows. :eusa-dance:
Someone said "speed kills" above, and that is true on the road. :thumbup:
I have gone the way of using heavy arrows, which helps reduce noise. :wave:
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Re: string silencers

Post by longbow joe » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:40 pm

I like catwhiskers tied in a knot with 2 micro wire ties on both sides. The few seconds slow dont bother me
But if you shoot it for a week then take them off you will surely miss them. They just seem to tame the bow down in a good way.
I like cats brush button idea that's a great compromise.
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I also like a heavy arra 110 grain and even a 125 head everything is so speed oriented today its ridiculous
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Post by longbow joe » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:25 pm

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Re: string silencers

Post by AJ01 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:32 pm

Boo wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:48 am
The effectiveness of silencers are dependent on your expectations and your hearing. If you're a geezer, worked on a noisy environment or shot much without hearing protection, there are certain frequencies you just will not appreciate. Silencers not only lower noise but they lower recoil. The reality is that no amount of silencing will buy you a deer. The effort is only worth it if you lower noise and shock for yourself.
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Re: string silencers

Post by Boo » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:38 pm

longbow joe wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:25 pm
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Joe, those cable ties are meant to be used outside right? Some cable ties are not meant to be used in UV conditions and can deteriorate. I have no idea if the amount of time spent outdoors hunting will effect non UV cable ties.
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Re: string silencers

Post by xcaliber » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:02 pm

db Killer string stops, they work a little differently than the Excalibur version where as the string is supposed to press into the stops after the shot. I was amazed at the amount of noise & vibration reduction on my Micro 355. No loss in speed, and they last forever. Just saying! :eusa-whistle:
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Re: string silencers

Post by longbow joe » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:19 pm

The wire ties are uv resistant they usually last as long as the whiskers do (about 2 seasons)
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Post by Boo » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:58 am

Ah! Good thinking!
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Re: string silencers

Post by ComfyBear » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:30 pm

xcaliber wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:02 pm
db Killer string stops, they work a little differently than the Excalibur version where as the string is supposed to press into the stops after the shot. I was amazed at the amount of noise & vibration reduction on my Micro 355. No loss in speed, and they last forever. Just saying! :eusa-whistle:
Dan if you're amazed at the amount of noise & vibration reduction of the dB Killers, wait until you get your Micro Axe 340 with the SDS & Air Brakes. The further reduction will surprise you. :o

Like I stated in other posts, all my Matrix with dB Killers still sound like "cracking a whip", while all I notice with the Axe is the "thud" of the arrow hitting the target. Since I don't own any other Micro, I would have to guess that you will notice the same difference between your 355 and your 340. I'm interested to know for sure, so please let me know your findings.

Some might argue, that all that stuff makes the Axe heavier and slows it down. That may be true, but I feel that the SDS and Brakes adds to its stability and balance. Personally, initially I could shoot more accurately with my heavier and wider crossbows. Granted, using a bench rest I saw no difference in accuracy between any of my Excalibur crossbows. I've found them all very accurate.

However, the difference came when shooting off-hand. I could shoot my Exomag more accurately than I could shoot my Vixen. When I switched to the smaller Matrix, I found I wasn't as accurate or consistent as my Exomax or Exocet 200. However, with time I improved using it. Now with my smaller Miro Axe 340, I've found that my accuracy wasn't quite as good as my Matrix. However, with practice I've noticed that I'm improving to the point of almost being as accurate. I'm sure with time, I'll be just as accurate.

As far as reducing speed, having used much slower crossbows, and having been very successful in harvesting game, to me it's an non-issue.
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