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Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by paulaboutform » Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:02 pm

I recall this being discussed at some point but my recollection isn't what it used to be. I'm thinking of sacrificing one or two Spitfires by gluing the blades closed with my cyanoacrylate glue for target practice. Has anyone tried it and will it work...before I ruin a broadhead? :eusa-think:

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Re: Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by W.Miguire » Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:50 pm

JB Weld works.
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Re: Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by longbow joe » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:41 am

Honestly paul l have shot spitfires ,xact,lazer strike 2, for years. As long as l have confirmed that the bolt shoots well with a field point .Then go to my broadhead and spin check it l have found a1/2 inch variance with all of them .l dont even bother shooting them anymore.
That is the golden part about them.
With all of my bows l have knocked out a whole lot of aggravation tuning and fiddling with the fixed blades
I have no problems with a fixed blade l just dont need any more time spent playing with them. I have other things to do.
They do indeed make spitfire practice blades but l have found them useless because they flew like a field point. Lol.epoxy one together and hopefully you will have the same results l have for peace of mind. Good luck this season.
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Re: Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by paulaboutform » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:16 am

Thanks Joe. Funny thing though, I have 3 Spitfire practice heads that flew nothing like my field points or the actual broadheads....and Ironnoggin witnessed it. I found them a complete waste of money. My concern was that the glue/epoxy wouldn't hold up to the shock and force of the arrow slamming into the target. I think I'll have to try one. I'll soak the broadhead in an acetone bath, clean with a Q-Tip, second soak, and allow to dry thoroughly. Hopefully it works. I'll post up my results.

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Re: Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by flightattendant100 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:39 am

A simple pc of electrical tape works for 2-3 shots. You should be fine.

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Re: Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by longbow joe » Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:42 am

Paul what is your arrow bolt and insert set up.with the spitfires?
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Re: Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by amythntr » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:31 am

W.Miguire wrote:
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JB Weld works.
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X2.... this is what I use on my spitfires!

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Re: Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by wheelie » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:45 am

I use the real deal. I have a cheapy field point target from CT that broadheads blow right through. I glue on a paper target. I stand a ten inch thick piece of white Styrofoam from insulating homes about 18 inchs behind field point target. Styrofoam gets knocked over but arrow never blows through. Broadheads get stuck in foam and I push and pull them out the other side. If I have to refletch arrow later who cares. Works good for me. That's all I use that field point target for. CHEERS!

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Re: Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by Normous » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:37 am

X3 on the JB Weld.
I clean all surfaces with acetone first.
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Re: Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by Boo » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:34 am

Paul, I cleaned a Spitfire XXX with acetone, ran the blue top Gorrilla Glue in the grooves, shut them and left the glue set for a day. Two of the blades opened and one of those broke off dragging the steel blade keeper out. I'm going to try JB Weld. I tried one without glue and it broke 2 blades. This is all out of the 440 into a Rinehart target.
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Re: Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by Tom » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:23 am

paulaboutform wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:16 am
Thanks Joe. Funny thing though, I have 3 Spitfire practice heads that flew nothing like my field points or the actual broadheads....and Ironnoggin witnessed it. I found them a complete waste of money. My concern was that the glue/epoxy wouldn't hold up to the shock and force of the arrow slamming into the target. I think I'll have to try one. I'll soak the broadhead in an acetone bath, clean with a Q-Tip, second soak, and allow to dry thoroughly. Hopefully it works. I'll post up my results.

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Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:34 am
Paul, I cleaned a Spitfire XXX with acetone, ran the blue top Gorrilla Glue in the grooves, shut them and left the glue set for a day. Two of the blades opened and one of those broke off dragging the steel blade keeper out. I'm going to try JB Weld. I tried one without glue and it broke 2 blades. This is all out of the 440 into a Rinehart target.
Paul it is strange that your practice blades do not fly like hunting heads as I know many different shooters, different bows that all shoot alike. But all these heads are older versions, maybe that this could be the variable.

I also know how particular you are with your arrows. How much weight will jb weld add to the head. I imagine that even blue gorilla glue would add enough weight to alter the benifit of shooting the altered head (with same profile as hunting head).

I loved the spitfire practice heads as they did shoot exactly the same holes for me as I did find that the head profile did have an effect. I hope you can figure out something.

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Re: Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by paulaboutform » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:13 pm

Thanks fellas. The 3 practice Spitfires wouldn't even hit in the same place and there was a discernable rattle in the practice heads but everything was tight.
I assure you my arrows are built meticulously, with an almost embarrassing amount of attention to detail. I cut my arrows on my Cir-Cut Arrow saw, square both ends with the G5 squaring tool after marking the ends with a welders pen, bore clean the front of the shafts, soak in an acetone bath and swab with Q-Tips, furl my brass inserts and weigh each shaft and inserts on my calibrated Pro-Tac digital scale...which is recalibrated every 6 measures. I then match up parts to shafts and file the back of the inserts to have all my shafts and components, including nocks and vanes, weighing exactly the same. I then weigh the points and match them to each shaft so I am within 0.1gr variance within the dozen arrows. I also square the nocks once installed. As I said, I pay great attention to detail. The recipe I used was 18" Zombies with the decals removed, 110gr brass inserts, 100gr broadheads, 2" Blazers on the EZ Bolt Fletcher and Luminoks.
I'll have to stop by Lordco or Princess Auto and pick up some JB Weld.

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Re: Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by ldock » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:39 pm

My practice spitfires were not close. I took dental floss and wrapped the blades as tight as I could same as field point. Don't leave any excess dental floss cut close and lightly burn ends with lighter. Best I remember I got a couple shots out of the floss before it started detorating after hitting the target. Hope this helps Larry

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Re: Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by Boo » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:00 pm

ldock wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:39 pm
My practice spitfires were not close. I took dental floss and wrapped the blades as tight as I could same as field point. Don't leave any excess dental floss cut close and lightly burn ends with lighter. Best I remember I got a couple shots out of the floss before it started detorating after hitting the target. Hope this helps Larry
That does not appear to work with the 440. One shot and the blades are open. I used a strand of string with a breaking strength of around 120 lbs. epoxy it is for me.
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Re: Converting a Mechanical for Practice

Post by ldock » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:50 pm

All I know is it works for me I don't just make one wrap I wrapped several rounds on the arrow very tightly. If it doesn't suit your fancy don't use it. Just made a suggestion for those interested.

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