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Re: quills not lasting

Post by W.Miguire » Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:41 am

I have seen this before when the arrow was not set all the way against the string . maybe just maybe that is what happened to you.
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Re: quills not lasting

Post by Boo » Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:48 am

What target are you shooting into and what are you using to remove them?
There's a pretty good skid mark at the break which kinda makes me think something hit it or it hit something in the target.
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Re: quills not lasting

Post by newbie » Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:55 pm

Are these Easton quills or BEA? I uaf it happen to my Easton quills after 6 shots into a rhioblock. I think the abrupt stop the back end would vibrate and snap.
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Re: quills not lasting

Post by AJ01 » Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:57 pm

Looks like an Easton Quill.

I have one of the Yellow Jacket broadhead targets and with the Boltcutters it can be a real pain in the rump to pull these from the block. The Yellow Jacket target seems to be really hard. I fractured a Quill removing it from the target.
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Re: quills not lasting

Post by Boo » Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:14 pm

AJ01 wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:57 pm
Looks like an Easton Quill.

I have one of the Yellow Jacket broadhead targets and with the Boltcutters it can be a real pain in the rump to pull these from the block. The Yellow Jacket target seems to be really hard. I fractured a Quill removing it from the target.
I started using a Double D's arrow puller. That ended the problem. :thumbup:
I also switched to the BEE's!!
I switched to the Danny Miller arrow puller because i was bending my aluminum shafts.
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Re: quills not lasting

Post by janesy » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:08 pm

I'd be having a good long chat with that target. If it's overly hard, or has something in it. I fear Executioners or Zombies would ultimately do the same thing, but it may not be as obvious, creating an unsafe situation
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Re: quills not lasting

Post by xcaliber » Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:42 pm

The 18-1 target is very dense! I only shoot broad heads into mine, and never near the top. I'm not sure how the handle is attached, the rope goes into the top, and most likely has steel grommets that you cannot see. Just me, but I'm OCD! :crazy:
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Re: quills not lasting

Post by Cardinalsfanforever » Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:44 pm

It's just a block target. placing target flat with knee on it to pull with hand, sometimes puller. most bolts just come right out. penetrate about half way unless they hit another hole. I check and make sure they are seated all the way in the crossbow most of the time. the first one was with field point. the second was with swhacker target head. the quills are Black Eagle. Got some executioners coming, hope they work better. I put broad heads on bolts for this weekend, but noticed one had some carbon pulled loose right behind the insert. guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Re: quills not lasting

Post by janesy » Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:29 am

Cardinalsfanforever wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:44 pm
It's just a block target. placing target flat with knee on it to pull with hand, sometimes puller. most bolts just come right out. penetrate about half way unless they hit another hole. I check and make sure they are seated all the way in the crossbow most of the time. the first one was with field point. the second was with swhacker target head. the quills are Black Eagle. Got some executioners coming, hope they work better. I put broad heads on bolts for this weekend, but noticed one had some carbon pulled loose right behind the insert. guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Those quills are executioners. That's why I'm suggesting a different target
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Re: quills not lasting

Post by Cardinalsfanforever » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:04 am

thank you. looking into it now
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Re: quills not lasting

Post by Cardinalsfanforever » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:14 am

think I'll make my own bag target. Any suggestions?
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Re: quills not lasting

Post by Boo » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:32 am

Cardinalsfanforever wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:14 am
think I'll make my own bag target. Any suggestions?
The best bag I've owned is a Third Hand Archery Rag Bag. Noting lasts as long. The only down side is that you have to stuff it. Layer clothing or better yet, cut clothing to 2" strips and dump them in. I've had one that I've had one for 7 or 8 yrs. Started to use it for field testing the 405. Probably has 5,000 shots, maybe much more and it's still in great shape.
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Re: quills not lasting

Post by nchunterkw » Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:16 pm

Shooting a FP into a foam target puts a TON of stress on an arrow. As noted above...my suggestion is also to shoot FPs only into a bag target (you can make one easy enough with a burlap sack and old jeans, or I suggest the Yellow jacket Crossbow bag target), and only shooting broadheads into a foam target (I suggest rhino too). The cut of the baldes greatly reduces the friction on the shaft resulting a a "slower slow down" and more penetration. And they are not bad to remove either because of the slices along the "wound channel" When you shoot a FP into a foam target, the friction is so strong it heats up the foam and pretty much welds the arrow into the target. And there is no relief point along the channel when trying to remove it. Twisting the arrow will break the bond and allow arrows to be removed.

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Re: quills not lasting

Post by bob1961 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:12 pm

why I use alum arrows !
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Re: quills not lasting

Post by nchunterkw » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:15 pm

bob1961 wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:12 pm
why I use alum arrows !
Alum is not better. Shoot them into a foam target with a field point and you will easily bend them, or bend them pulling them out. Heck I even got a slight bend on an Easton Full Metal Jacket, which is just what is says, Aluminum over Carbon. Shot it and it was perfect. Shot it again and it was not good. Then I switched to a bag target. Carbons are either straight or broke. Can't say that about aluminum.
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