Strength needed to cock 340 axe vs others

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Strength needed to cock 340 axe vs others

Post by sagedoc » Fri May 08, 2020 6:47 pm

Hello everyone,
I am looking to get a new crossbow, but with most stores still closed, I can’t the Axe 340 to see if I can pull it back with a regular string puller versus a crank type of aid. I have a Matrix 380 that I have to use a crank, but I also have an equinox that I don’t need a crank to cock. Can anyone tell me where the Axe 340 firs in there? I have had numerous hand surgeries which limit me somewhat, but I’d rather not use a crank if I can help it. Thanks

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Re: Strength needed to cock 340 axe vs others

Post by flightattendant100 » Fri May 08, 2020 6:51 pm

I don’t have an Axe, but have a Micro 335 and a Micro 355. The 335 is stout but so short a pull that it is pretty easy. The 355 is just enough longer that it gets to be a fair chore to cock. Hope I haven’t confused you more

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Re: Strength needed to cock 340 axe vs others

Post by xcaliber » Fri May 08, 2020 6:57 pm

flightattendant100 wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 6:51 pm
I don’t have an Axe, but have a Micro 335 and a Micro 355. The 335 is stout but so short a pull that it is pretty easy. The 355 is just enough longer that it gets to be a fair chore to cock. Hope I haven’t confused you more
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Re: Strength needed to cock 340 axe vs others

Post by hunter with MS » Fri May 08, 2020 7:33 pm

I have MS and cancer which limits my strength to rope cock the Axe but I can rope cock my Axe a few times . But I bought the Charger ext crank so I save my energy and I use it .

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Re: Strength needed to cock 340 axe vs others

Post by Boo » Fri May 08, 2020 7:45 pm

If you have no problem cocking an Equinox, you're probably 5'10" or more. If you are, it may not be fun but you won't have any problems cocking the 340. Height tends to be more of a benefit than strength.
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Re: Strength needed to cock 340 axe vs others

Post by janesy » Fri May 08, 2020 9:49 pm

flightattendant100 wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 6:51 pm
I don’t have an Axe, but have a Micro 335 and a Micro 355. The 335 is stout but so short a pull that it is pretty easy. The 355 is just enough longer that it gets to be a fair chore to cock. Hope I haven’t confused you more
The AXE in my opinion, falls closer the the 355 than the 335. I can't remember off the top of my head but the power stroke on the axe is shorter than the 335, but the pressure on the limbs is greater so it requires more force than say a traditional micro that shoots the same speed. but the shorter draw length does make it feel easier than the 355, as you don't need that last 1/2" umph to lock it in.

But to answer the OP's question, based on the responses of almost all AXE owners now over the last year(almost)
If you need a crank to cock a 380, you'll need a crank to cock the AXE 340.

The axe like all micros, doesn't have the "soft" start the matrix and especially the wide limbs offer before they build up the tension. The micros pretty much starts the pull under tension. It's a stout, but short pull.

With that said, the AXE is probably the best bang for the buck for Excal these days. Extremely well balanced, good package at a good price point. If only they were Bulldogs. :)
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Re: Strength needed to cock 340 axe vs others

Post by Cardinalsfanforever » Sat May 09, 2020 12:03 am

I think the cocking effort for the matrix 380 and the micro 315( which I own both) is about the same, they feel similar. the 340 will probably be tuffer to pull back. just got an Axiom SMF and so far am liking it!
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Re: Strength needed to cock 340 axe vs others

Post by sagedoc » Sat May 09, 2020 7:26 am

Thanks everyone for the info!

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Re: Strength needed to cock 340 axe vs others

Post by Boo » Sat May 09, 2020 7:30 am

Cardinalsfanforever wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 12:03 am
I think the cocking effort for the matrix 380 and the micro 315( which I own both) is about the same, they feel similar. the 340 will probably be tuffer to pull back. just got an Axiom SMF and so far am liking it!
That is where height comes to play. The 315 is easy for me to cock. The 380 is much more difficult for me. In fact I haven't rope cocked it for 2 yrs because I don't have the strength anymore.
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Re: Strength needed to cock 340 axe vs others

Post by ComfyBear » Tue May 12, 2020 9:46 pm

Even though I could cock my Matrix 380 with the cocking-aid rope, when I first got my Axe, I could not cock it with the rope, so I ordered the crank. Since I found the crank not as convenient. I tried the rope until eventually after about a week or so I could cock it without the crank. So I suppose it's mind over matter, or where there's a will there's a way.
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