OT: Reintroducing Canada's Long Gun Registry

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Justin Trudeau claims handgun “freeze” doesn’t target law-abiding gun owners

One day after Justin Trudeau announced what he calls a “freeze” on handgun purchases in Canada, he told reporters his government’s anti-gun bill has no effect on law-abiding gun owners.

https://tnc.news/2022/05/31/justin-trudeau-claims-handgun-freeze-doesnt-target-law-abiding-gun-owners/

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Justin Trudeau claims handgun “freeze” doesn’t target law-abiding gun owners

One day after Justin Trudeau announced what he calls a “freeze” on handgun purchases in Canada, he told reporters his government’s anti-gun bill has no effect on law-abiding gun owners.

https://tnc.news/2022/05/31/justin-trudeau-claims-handgun-freeze-doesnt-target-law-abiding-gun-owners/

Just lied!!!

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Just lied!!!

Something he is very used to doing...

14 top cops and policing experts who doubt the effectiveness of the proposed Liberal gun ban

Police officers and police departments across Canada have voiced their opinions on the Liberal government’s gun bans.

In 2019 the Liberals made a decision to ban “assault-style” rifles and earlier this week, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced a ban on handguns and even further restrictions on law-abiding firearm owners.

Current and former officers have voiced their concerns about Trudeau’s gun bans and its effectiveness in combatting illegal crime.

Here are 14 police officers and policing experts who have gone on record speaking out against the proposed ban, in their own words:

https://tnc.news/2022/06/01/14-top-cops-and-policing-experts-who-doubt-the-effectiveness-of-the-proposed-liberal-gun-ban/

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Conservative leadership candidate Pierre Poilievre comments on the Trudeau Liberal's latest assault on lawful gun owners

Liberals like Justin Trudeau and Jean Charest have completely failed on firearms. Their useless registries do nothing to target criminals. My Government will respect law-abiding gun owners, put dangerous criminals behind bars and stop gun smugglers at the border. I will end the absurd Liberal airsoft ban.

Let’s be clear about something else: the Liberals are not doing a handgun “freeze”. Nothing in yesterday’s announcement will “freeze” the flow of already-illegal handguns smuggled from the U.S., which are responsible for the vast majority of gun crimes, according to Toronto police. I will direct resources away from targeting licensed and lawful firearms owners who are trained and tested, and instead bolster the border against smugglers and put violent gun criminals behind bars.

I will replace this Liberal made-for-Hollywood approach to firearm classification with one that focuses on what the firearm does. Firearms should be classified by what they do, not how they look. And I will rely on an expert task force to define the criteria by which this will occur, and that task force will include farmers, Olympic sport shooters, First Nations, hunters, frontline law enforcement, and technical experts, like gun collectors.

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Deadline to sign up to vote is TOMORROW Night Folks!!

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CSSA Special Report:

For Immediate Release:

June 3, 2022

Liberal Lies 743, 744 and 745

Our phone lines and emails are burning up with one question.

When Does This “Freeze” Take Effect?

Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino [intentionally?] sowed massive confusion about when this “freeze” on handgun sales actually takes effect.

“We are not waiting for this bill (C-21) to pass to take action,” Mendicino said. “Today we table changes to regulations under the Firearms Act to bring these handgun prohibitions into force as soon as possible.

Yet Public Safety Canada’s website states, “These regulations will come into force once the Parliamentary tabling requirements under the Firearms Act are complete, expected in Fall 2022.”

During the technical briefing that followed Monday’s press conference, the government spokesperson made this statement:

“These regulations will be following the democratic process through the Houses and if these regulations are approved and they come into force prior to Royal Assent [of Bill C-21] then they will be in effect and will apply [first].”

What Does That Mean?

“The democratic process” for regulations are specified in Section 118 (4) of the Firearms Act.[ii]

118 (4) A proposed regulation that has been laid pursuant to subsection (1) may be made

(a) on the expiration of thirty sitting days after it was laid; or

(b) where, with respect to each House of Parliament,

(i) the committee reports to the House, or

(ii) the committee decides not to conduct inquiries or public hearings.

And What Does That Mean?

The regulations will either:

Come into force 30 sitting days from May 30th, 2022 (likely the “Fall 2022” date from Public Safety),

OR

As soon as they are passed in the House of Commons and the Senate.

Clear as mud, right?

The House will pass these regulations ASAP as the NDP is committed to voting with the Liberals until the next legislated election.

The Senate will likely pass these regulations quickly as well, given Liberals control the upper chamber.

Indeed, Second Reading of Bill C-21 is happening in the House of Commons today at approximately 12:15 p.m. You can watch the debate live HERE.

The regulations could pass the House and Senate as early as next week. While this seems unlikely, the Liberals will happily stoop to a new low if it will get them their way.

This would also explain why the RCMP Canadian Firearms Program shut down access to PAL verifications and firearm transfers on Monday. They needed to ensure the system could be stopped at a moment’s notice.

Alberta Chief Firearms Officer Teri Bryant refuted these latest Liberal Lies.[iii]

Bryant said public safety would be far better served if greater attention was paid to tracking people who have firearms prohibition orders against them.

"Often these people already have numerous firearms prohibition orders against them, and yet they still are able to go out and track down and obtain firearms," Bryant said.

"We need to be tracking these people and keeping better tabs on them because these are really high-risk offenders. The problem with this package of measures is it targets the people who are at the lowest risk of offending."

As of yesterday, media outlets have reported that 337 repeat offenders, all arrested for committing other serious crimes, were also charged with 779 counts of breaching Firearm Prohibition Orders, yet Liberal Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino refuses to lift a finger to fix Canada’s broken Firearm Prohibition Order System to address this serious public safety issue.[iv]

Justin Trudeau Lied

Justin Trudeau was consistent yesterday when he lied to Canadians claiming Bill C-21 will stop drug dealers, criminals and gangs from using smuggled illegal guns.

Trudeau makes this absurd claim every time he places new restrictions on RCMP-vetted licensed firearm owners.

Why Canadians continue to believe this Liberal lie is troubling.

Bill Blair Lied

Bill Blair was consistent when he lied about increasing funding for the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA).

According to a document Bill Blair presented to Parliament, he slashed funding for the CBSA by $264.9 million in 2021 and planned to slash another $125.1 million this year.[v]

Blair claimed he was cracking down on border security, but three government experts say almost nothing is being done to stop the flow of illegal handguns smuggled into Canada.

Speaking before the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security (SECU) on February 1, 2022, Mark Weber, National President of the Customs and Immigration Union, testified:

“Perhaps most glaring of all are the rail mode operations, where, according to the union's own data, as of 2019, only one one-millionth of all rail cargo was effectively being examined. The reality is that our current operational abilities in the rail field are virtually non-existent.”[vi]

National Police Federation President Brian Sauvé testified:

“Resources should prioritize the criminal use of firearms, with a coordinated strategy that effectively combines prevention, law enforcement and social programs.”[vii]

RCMP Deputy Commissioner Stephen White testified:

“The reality is that of the number of firearms that were seized last year across the country — well over 30,000 — the national tracing centre under the Canadian firearms program traced just a very small percentage of those handguns and other firearms.”[viii]

“We are taking effective steps in Bill C-21 to address all of the ways in which criminals gain access to guns,” Bill Blair claimed.

Why Canadians continue to believe this Liberal lie is even more troubling.

Further restricting the lawful ownership and use of firearms is not the solution to lax border controls, yet, for reasons we do not fathom – Canadians continue to believe Bill Blair’s Liberal lies.

The legal purchase of handguns by licensed and RCMP-vetted firearm owners is not the scary bogeyman this lying Liberal government would have you believe.

There's Still Time

If you want to have a say in who becomes the next leader of the Conservative Party of Canada – a leader who will look out for the rights of lawful gun owners and put the focus back on gun smuggling and violent criminals with guns – you still have time to buy a membership. The deadline is TODAY, June 3rd at 11:59 p.m.

Make your voice count! Get your $15 membership HERE: https://donate.conservative.ca/en/membership-poilievre/

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Alternative Restricted Firearm Transfer Methods

On Point Training just posted this to 250Hunter page on Facebook - thought it might be of assistance for some:

If you are currently trying to transfer a restricted firearm and you are not getting any progress on the phone, there are alternative methods.

Fill out RCMP form 5492e (attached, click the link at the bottom) and get it over to the CFO in Miramichi by email, fax and maybe even document courier. The fax number for the National Contact Centre in Miramichi is (613) 825-0297. The email address [email protected] and the mailing address is on the form itself.

Good luck, may the odds be ever in your favour!

Link: https://www.onpointtraining.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/RCMP-5492e-Paper-transfer-2012-04-16.pdf

Cheers

[one shot scott]

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Canada does not have a ‘gun problem’; we have a ‘crime problem

Dear editor,

Re: June 1 editorial – Gun control a shared issue

What happened at that Texas school was a gut-wrenching tragedy. One of the things that makes it even worse (if such a thing was possible) is when opportunistic politicians and ideologues try to exploit the tragedy and the fragile emotional state of its aftermath in an attempt to thrust forward their agenda. “Never waste a crisis,” they cry.

One of the first obstacles to having a ‘conversation’ about ‘gun control’ (a very broad subject which does not lend itself to finding specific, effective solutions) is that the people crying loudest for gun control are almost all ignorant. Ignorant of the facts – particularly regarding the current, extremely strict laws in Canada.

It’s not my intent to be insulting, it’s just a fact. Legal gun owners in Canada, some of the most vetted citizens, face criminal prosecution if we make even the slightest error related to storage, transportation or paperwork. As such, we make it a point to fully educate ourselves on all those pitfalls so as to avoid jail. In my experience, the average legal gun owner in Canada understands the minefield of Canadian gun law better than the average police officer (unless he/she too is a private, legal gun owner – many are).

Justin Trudeau is just such an opportunistic politician/ideologue. He and his colleagues cannot stand the private ownership of guns and are constantly on the lookout for tragic opportunities to exploit. He did it with the Nova Scotia murders and he’s done it again with the Texas tragedy. He has metaphorically climbed onto the bodies of dead children to manipulate your emotions. It’s absolutely disgusting.

Nothing he announced on May 30 would have any effect on a similar incident nor is any of it even related to that particular horrific event. It’s all just posturing and virtue-signalling – Trudeau’s particular specialty. Naturally, the media gobbles it up and regurgitates it back to its ignorant audience, further misinforming them.

We do not have a ‘gun problem’ in Canada. We have a ‘crime problem’ in which unlicensed criminals misuse illegal handguns in support of their illegal drug trade. How is freezing the legal commerce of handguns going to fix that? It won’t. Contrary to the Black Press editorial, ‘straw purchases’ by licensed gun owners and theft of legal guns only accounts for an extremely minor source of crime guns. It is well known that over 80 per cent of crime guns in Toronto are illegal, smuggled handguns.

I haven’t the space to correct the rest of the misinformation in the editorial but I’ll mention two other misleading statements: a. There has not been 30 x K – 12 ‘school shootings’ so far this year. That figure covers all gun-related activity in the environs of a school. Included in that are incidents not related to a school or on school property. In fact there have only been 13 incidents in the past 60 years that meet the criteria for a ‘school mass shooting.’ (Yes, I agree, one is too many.) And b. The US does not lead the world in murder, gun crime or school shootings. These are facts you can verify and not just parrot the talking points of the anti-gun lobby.

Herein lies a major problem. As long as we are distracted by ever increasing restrictions on the legal gun community, we are wasting time and resources that should be spent on the actual root causes of our crime problem. Yet, following a tragedy, the politicians and media parade out the ‘usual suspects’ of the anti-gun lobby who spew false statistics, half truths and outright lies while giving no time for comment from calm, articulate and factual speakers like Rod Giltaca of the CCFR. We can’t have that valuable ‘discussion’ if one side ignores all the facts and screams at the other side.

So why does Trudeau keep attacking legal gun owners? Simple. Because he can get away with it. Removing guns from private ownership is a pillar/cornerstone of leftist ideology. It has been for over 50 years. Trudeau is determined to pursue that ideology regardless of public safety or the actual facts. His main aim, however, is not to sacrifice any power in the pursuit of that ideology.

Enter 2.25 million licensed gun owners. We are lost to him. We will never vote for his party so we don’t matter. He can toy with us as he wishes and appear to be ‘doing something’ when actually he is doing nothing meaningful. All while never losing a single vote. He gains votes among the ill-informed general public and boasts about it in his party’s re-election propaganda.

Remember, more criminals vote liberal than legal gun owners. So, rather than go after actual criminals in a full court press, he wastes resources and tax dollars attacking a safe minority group. This clouds the real issues and nothing of any efficacy gets done.

Finally, to all those who cry, “why does anyone need a (insert handgun, semi-auto rifle etc). Much of the private property we own in Canada is not needed. Why does each household need more that one car? Particularly when cars kill more than 10 times the people than guns (suicides account for more than 60% of all gun-related deaths). A killer in Toronto murdered 10 people using a white van (5 times more victims than those shot and killed on Danforth). Where are the cries to ban ‘assault vans’? Why do we need motorcycles that can exceed 200kms/hr? What’s the fascination with ‘scary’ dog breeds that intimidate pedestrians and attack children?

‘Need’ has nothing to do with it. If, in pursuit of ideology, politicians decide, on a whim and contrary to all logic and facts, to outlaw the legally-obtained private property of citizens who have done no wrong, the onus is on them to prove their case. They have failed to do so. So what’s next? Ban antique cars in the name of climate change? Ban the aforementioned ‘scary’ dog breeds? Why not? Most of the rifles on his banned list from 2020 have never been used in a crime and are only on the list because they are ‘scary-looking.’

D.J. Vernon,
Comox

https://www.comoxvalleyrecord.com/opinion/letter-canada-does-not-have-a-gun-problem-we-have-a-crime-problem/amp/

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Same argument here, when an airplane goes down and kills 100-200+ people I don't see any calls to ban airplanes.
I figure if they ban all "assault and high-capacity weapons", the next shooter will just use a pump gun, then they will go after them next, etc. etc.
The ban antique car brought something to mind, I remember awhile back that someone had actually suggested making parts no longer available for cars over a certain age so they could not be repaired and thus no longer be driven.

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Having actually witnessed more homicides than I care to count, I personally have NEVER seen a firearm shot anyone. I have seen PEOPLE use a firearm to inflict bodily injury or death on other individuals. I stand with great resolve and with great conviction, when I say I have never seen a firearm jump off a table or leap out of a desk, or from wherever it was resting to assault or shoot anyone!!

What society has is a great ignorance of who and what is at fault during the "act" of shooting someone. It take a person to pick the firearm up, point it at someone and then pull the trigger!!
The firearm will not fire simply because it is being held.

When and only if law makers ever get to the point of understanding who is legally responsible will there be a reduction in the amount of homicides in any locality. Those who choose to break the law, must be punished. Not the law-abiding.
We don't sue car manufacturers when someone dies in a car wreck. Nor do we sue the builders of planes when they crash. Then why do we sue firearms companies? Because it's the Liberal thing to do.

Texas has 27 million people in it's borders. It has 1.8 million licensed hunter. I found that we have 1.2 million active permits for a CHL. But now that "Constitutional Carry" has become law in Texas, I can assure you, that number has gone thru the roof!
It has been said that there is "at least one firearm for every person in Texas". Knowing some of the folks I know, I'd say that figure is a little low!!

I feel for my Brothers north of the Border! But we too face the same idiocy everyday. Outright Lunatics, Demigods and Ideologues run our major cities. People who live there are no more than lost sheep, with few thoughts of their own. Clear thinking indiviuals are called "a threat to society".
Our Police and Military are looked upon with scorn, and criminals are to be looked upon with pity.
We are a World that has lost it's moral compass.

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The Lawyer's Take: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amRgFSwVkDo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFBJcAx7GMQ&t=167s

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The majority of Canadians fall under two categories. Neither of which bodes well for gun owners. Either they know nothing about guns, and could care less if every single gun owner goes by the way of the dodo bird, or they are vehemently opposed to private firearms ownership. This, of course, gives the govt all the freedom,and all the legitimacy they need to get rid of the guns, as has occurred in other countries.
For the govt it's neither personal, nor is there an overwhelming need to keep Canadians safe. It's just about exploiting an opportunity for improving popularity, which of course translates into votes, and continuity of all important power. What does this mean for gun owners. Well, we're at the mercy of the party that is in power. It means a brief respite when the liberals are not in power, followed by a renewed onslaught, and more loss when they are in power.
The only chance we have is if, for one, there is election reform.Two, the firearms act is rewritten. Three, parties are forbidden from colluding, in order to prop up a minority govt.
Of course, we all know the likelihood of one change occurring. Much less all three

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Sounds political to me. Just saying.