Shooting the VPA 3 Blade fixed???

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Re: Shooting the VPA 3 Blade fixed???

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DuckHunt wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:18 pm

Ethics Archery has the stainless inserts that are adjustable.
92 - 110gr
125 - 200gr in 25gr increments
200 - 400gr in 50 grain increments

https://ethicsarchery.com/products/ethics-archery-clean-cut-adjustable-static-insert-300-12-pk?variant=39299567910935

You'd have some spendy arrows when you are done. But they may be worth it for a specific purpose. I have some in one set of arrows and they're nice.

Using 200gr inserts would help with your FOC, but I'm guessing a 200gr broadhead would be pretty durable in its own right.
Thanks DH..I forgot the company.

My decision making process goes:
1) pick the total weight I want up front
2) pick a super tough broadhead
3) use inserts/weights to get me to my desired weight

It's kinda backwards from what I did in the past where I picked my arrow and insert then added on a BH.

I did look up stainless steel versus brass and brass is actually a little bit denser (heavier for a given volume), so the SS inserts of the same weight will be larger ......BUT.....stainless is definitely harder than brass and makes it less likely to deform when your arrow hits something very hard. And brass and aluminum seem to be close in hardness. FWIW
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Normous wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:07 pm


- 16.5" BEE .001 , spine indexed and squared.
- 110 SS Ethics custom inserts.
- .297" 6" inner carbon tube added up front at 8.5 gpi added using 2 part 24 hr slow set flexible epoxy.
- 18 gr add a weight added to BE nocks to match the 28 gr Lumenok nock.
- 3.15" VT Swift HD used .
Total weight without point is 367.5 gr . All 6 built within half grain variance. Andy check your scale , may its not smelling very good at the moment :angel:
Alright....checked my scale. First of all, it's smallest measure is GRAMS, not Grains. It works fine for weighing baby snakes, not so much for arrows! :crazy: My powder scale measures in grains, but I can't figure out how to measure an arra on it!! :think: :lol:

Also found out according to Google that a gram has 15.432 grains in it! Should have paid more attention in Math class!! :wtf:

I have since ordered a NEW calibrated scale for arrows and broadheads!! :thumbup:

So...if I go with the 150g VPA total weight is 517.5 and of course the 200g head gives me 567.5. :think: I see some testing coming up REALLY quickly!!
Can't wait to use this setup on some REALLY BIG Uglies!!
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AJ01 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:05 am
Normous wrote:
Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:07 pm


- 16.5" BEE .001 , spine indexed and squared.
- 110 SS Ethics custom inserts.
- .297" 6" inner carbon tube added up front at 8.5 gpi added using 2 part 24 hr slow set flexible epoxy.
- 18 gr add a weight added to BE nocks to match the 28 gr Lumenok nock.
- 3.15" VT Swift HD used .
Total weight without point is 367.5 gr . All 6 built within half grain variance. Andy check your scale , may its not smelling very good at the moment :angel:
Alright....checked my scale. First of all, it's smallest measure is GRAMS, not Grains. It works fine for weighing baby snakes, not so much for arrows! :crazy: My powder scale measures in grains, but I can't figure out how to measure an arra on it!! :think: :lol:

Also found out according to Google that a gram has 15.432 grains in it! Should have paid more attention in Math class!! :wtf:

I have since ordered a NEW calibrated scale for arrows and broadheads!! :thumbup:

So...if I go with the 150g VPA total weight is 517.5 and of course the 200g head gives me 567.5. :think: I see some testing coming up REALLY quickly!!
Can't wait to use this setup on some REALLY BIG Uglies!!
Thanks NORMAN!! You Da' Best!! :thumbup:
Check out VPAs 2 blade single bevels. The way they do it they are a snap to sharpen as you don't have to mess with a tanto tip.
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AJ01 , component scales can be found a very reasonable cost wise and certainly come in handy if the model has gram, ounce and grain adjustments.

Just don't let butter fingers drop one or else.... :x
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The tuffhead evolution 3 blade is also very similar to the VPA, but I like the tanto tip on the tuffhead a little better. If you are going from a better structural integrity head. VPA tip seems like it could possibly bend easier on a really tough impact.

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The VPAs and he tuffheads are pretty similar. The 300gr 3 blades i bought have that pyramid point. But i was talking about the 2 blade single bevels VPA does the tip a bit differently
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I ordered one of these little jewels today! :thumbup:
Now I won't have to rely on my LACK of Math skills anymore!! :lol: :lol:

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Can't wait to put my hands on it!
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^^^Nice they include the red arrow holder....it is a welcome supplied add on.
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Normous wrote:
Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:14 pm
^^^Nice they include the red arrow holder....it is a welcome supplied add on.
Yes Sir...that's one of the reason I chose this one. Now maybe I can weigh things Mo' Better!! :lol:
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A really good video from the guys at "Draggin' Deer Outdoors" with Troy Fowler of "Ranch Fairy" fame on crossbow arrows and broadheads. :thumbup:

Bent Limbs Podcast Ep.#3 "Talkin' Crossbows with The Ranch Fairy"
https://youtu.be/tydIWNpvPsI
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AJ01 wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:09 pm
A really good video from the guys at "Draggin' Deer Outdoors" with Troy Fowler of "Ranch Fairy" fame on crossbow arrows and broadheads. :thumbup:

Bent Limbs Podcast Ep.#3 "Talkin' Crossbows with The Ranch Fairy"
https://youtu.be/tydIWNpvPsI
Started watching. This is fantastic. Everyone should watch it.
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nchunterkw wrote:
Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:27 pm
AJ01 wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:09 pm
A really good video from the guys at "Draggin' Deer Outdoors" with Troy Fowler of "Ranch Fairy" fame on crossbow arrows and broadheads. :thumbup:

Bent Limbs Podcast Ep.#3 "Talkin' Crossbows with The Ranch Fairy"
https://youtu.be/tydIWNpvPsI
Started watching. This is fantastic. Everyone should watch it.
"Shooting adult arrows", I like it. :thumbup:
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