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Firearm Lawyer's take on the latest court ruling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh29zquCavQ
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Bill C-21: Write Your Senators!

Bill C-21 is still under consideration at the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security (SECU), but with Jagmeet Singh’s NDP backing every Liberal government bill, C-21 will soon be making its way to the Senate.

When it does, the responsibility to fix this terrible legislation will be in the hands of our Senators.[ii]

The Senate has the power to change and/or delay Bill C-21.

The Senate has the power to investigate and publicize the bad parts of Bill C-21 – and there are many. This is where the Senate and/or individual senators can generate a lot of negative press for Bill C-21, which can help turn public opinion against this draft legislation.

In the gravest extreme, the Senate has the power to kill Bill C-21.

With these thoughts in mind, please take a few minutes to write to your senator(s) for your province or territory and ask them to correct the many flaws in Bill C-21.

You can find the names of your senators here:
https://sencanada.ca/en/senators/

To assist you in writing to your senators, we have created a template letter for you to download and modify so it’s in your own words: https://s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/CSSA/C21/Senator-Letter-1.docx

We recommend you do this, as your letter will have far greater effect than if you simply sign and send the template letter as is.

Also send a copy of your letter(s) to Senator Don Plett, Leader of the Opposition in the Senate, at:
The Hon. Donald Plett, Senator
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York Regional Police: 100% of Traced Guns Smuggled in from United States

York Regional Police kicked the legs out from under Justin Trudeau’s “handgun freeze” when they presented their report – Guns, Gangs and Violence – to the Police Services Board on November 7th.

“Out of 107 firearms that you see, 83 of them were successfully traced. Of those 83 guns that were traced, 100 per cent of them were identified as illicit firearms coming in from the United States and into Canada,” said Inspector Ahmad Salhia.[ii]

One hundred percent of the handguns traced were smuggled into Canada illegally from the United States.

“More regulations on law-abiding citizens is profoundly stupid,” said Leo Knight, a former police officer. “It is done by incompetent governments faced with a problem who want to be seen to be doing something but aren’t smart enough to actually figure out what to do.”

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The Canadian Shooting Sports Association Launches Multi-Pronged Lawsuit Against Trudeau Government over Handgun Freeze

OSHAWA, ON– The Canadian Shooting Sports Association (CSSA) has launched a multi-pronged lawsuit against the Canadian federal government for its de facto handgun confiscation scheme euphemistically labelled a “handgun freeze.”

The Trudeau government scheme, initiated in various forms by a proposed House of Commons' regulation, an Order in Council and a ministerial discretion order under the Export and Imports Permits Act, affects hundreds of thousands of licensed handgun owners with the ultimate effect of confiscating their property without compensation.

“The Supreme Court is clear on the issue of property confiscation,” said Tony Bernardo, Executive Director of the CSSA. “Compensation must be paid when government confiscates the lawfully acquired property of private citizens, and this government is attempting to circumvent the Criminal Code and longstanding Supreme Court precedent.”

“The Trudeau government attempts to trample on provincial jurisdiction in order to avoid paying compensation to handgun owners. They rendered handguns valueless by freezing the lawful handgun market, then state the only legal recourse is to surrender this property to the government – a clear violation of the laws of succession and vesting of property upon death to a beneficiary.”

Through its attempts to bypass Parliament, the Trudeau government violated Sections 7 and 8 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the Constitution Acts, 1867-1982 consolidated, the Firearms Act SC and provincial jurisdiction through the laws of succession and vesting of property upon death to a beneficiary.

“We will hold the Trudeau Liberal government to account in an impartial court of law for its blatant disregard of the civil rights of ordinary Canadians, its contempt for provincial jurisdiction, ministerial overreach, and its repeated violation of the Firearms Act and its supremacy in law,” said Tony Bernardo.

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I believe the CSSA is taking the right approach in this matter. The Trudeau government vainly thinks they are above the law and parliamentary procedure. Let's just see if any Judge will side with them on this...

If at all interested, you can support the CSSA Case here: https://store.cssa-cila.org/shop/lawsuit/
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Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights

THIS IS A RED ALERT FOR ALL CANADIAN GUN OWNERS!

BREAKING - New Massive Long Gun Bans Brought by the Liberal\NDP\Bloc Coalition

Today the Liberal/NDP/Bloc coalition government broke the glass on a typical Liberal distraction tool – gun bans. With Canadians reeling from a failed economy, tripling of taxes looming, 1.5M Canadians using foodbanks, hospitals overwhelmed with sick children who can’t even get Tylenol, Chinese interference in elections and of course a terrible showing at the Public Order Emergency Commission, the Liberals needed the media and Canadians in general talking about something other than their failures.

On behalf of this coalition, the Liberals added a disastrous amendment to Bill C-21 effectively prohibiting several million additional, individual rifles and shotguns. These new prohibitions will include:

SKS
IWI Tavor & X-95
all AR180 and variants
Canuck bullpup shotguns
Crusader Arms
Kel-Tec Sub2000 (and others)
JR Carbine
Kriss Vector
Ruger PC Carbine
GSG 16
GSG 15
Norinco T97 NSR
Benelli MR1
Benelli M4
all B&T models
countless others

Bill C-21 also now prohibits ALL CENTERFIRE SEMI-AUTOMATIC firearms with removable magazines.


Back in 2020, the Liberals banned over 2000 models and variants of hunting and sporting guns commonly owned and used safely by gun owners across the country. They said gun owners would be compensated for this loss and were welcome to purchase other guns as replacements…now, they’ve come for the rest of them. This is why nobody can trust a word these people say. But hey conspiracy theorists – they’re not “coming for your guns”.

So take notice Canada, yes they are, and it doesn’t matter what they told you yesterday or what they tell you tomorrow.
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IronNoggin wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:14 pm
Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights

THIS IS A RED ALERT FOR ALL CANADIAN GUN OWNERS!

BREAKING - New Massive Long Gun Bans Brought by the Liberal\NDP\Bloc Coalition

Today the Liberal/NDP/Bloc coalition government broke the glass on a typical Liberal distraction tool – gun bans. With Canadians reeling from a failed economy, tripling of taxes looming, 1.5M Canadians using foodbanks, hospitals overwhelmed with sick children who can’t even get Tylenol, Chinese interference in elections and of course a terrible showing at the Public Order Emergency Commission, the Liberals needed the media and Canadians in general talking about something other than their failures.

On behalf of this coalition, the Liberals added a disastrous amendment to Bill C-21 effectively prohibiting several million additional, individual rifles and shotguns. These new prohibitions will include:

SKS
IWI Tavor & X-95
all AR180 and variants
Canuck bullpup shotguns
Crusader Arms
Kel-Tec Sub2000 (and others)
JR Carbine
Kriss Vector
Ruger PC Carbine
GSG 16
GSG 15
Norinco T97 NSR
Benelli MR1
Benelli M4
all B&T models
countless others

Bill C-21 also now prohibits ALL CENTERFIRE SEMI-AUTOMATIC firearms with removable magazines.


Back in 2020, the Liberals banned over 2000 models and variants of hunting and sporting guns commonly owned and used safely by gun owners across the country. They said gun owners would be compensated for this loss and were welcome to purchase other guns as replacements…now, they’ve come for the rest of them. This is why nobody can trust a word these people say. But hey conspiracy theorists – they’re not “coming for your guns”.

So take notice Canada, yes they are, and it doesn’t matter what they told you yesterday or what they tell you tomorrow.
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Liberals Ban Semi-Automatic Firearms

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE –

November 22, 2022

OSHAWA, ON – Today, rumours that Justin Trudeau’s Liberal government will ban semi-automatic rifles and shotguns are confirmed.

An amendment to Bill C-21, currently before a House of Commons committee, was tabled today that will ban all semi-automatic rifles and shotguns capable of accepting an external magazine.

That Bill C-21, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 15 on page 1 the following:

(g) a firearm that is a rifle or shotgun, that is capable of discharging centre-fire ammunition in a semi-automatic manner and that is designed to accept a detachable cartridge magazine with a capacity greater than five cartridges of the type for which the firearm was originally designed
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They sure seem like they are fast-tracking all of this. Cant help but wonder why
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SKS, now that's just laughable. Good luck with that. Pretty sure there's an SKS under at least ever other bed in this country.
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I want to add my 2 cents but they are not politically correct.... lol
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Conservatives say Liberals cross ‘red line’ with bid to restrict firearms used by hunters

Conservative MPs say the government is crossing a “red line” with its last-minute amendment to ban semi-automatic rifles and shotguns primarily used by hunters, farmers and sport shooters.

The House of Commons Public Safety Committee met on Thursday to continue its clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-21, proposed legislation to further restrict access to handguns in Canada.

Committee members spent nearly the entire two-and-a-half hour hearing debating a Liberal amendment which would ban hundreds of additional models of rifles and shotguns, impacting hundreds of thousands of legal gun owners across Canada.

Loyd said the government is impugning democracy by removing the ability for the measure to be debated and studied from the start of the legislative process. The Liberals tabled the motion Tuesday after the second reading debate, and the committee’s study on the legislation concluded.

“It has precluded our ability to bring in witnesses, to bring in experts to talk about this issue and debate this issue,” Lloyd said. “It’s just been tabled, dropped as an amendment after we have completed our vigorous study.”

On Oct. 27, police experts told the committee that C-21 does not address the real issue of illegal firearms. Chief of Regina Police Service Evan Bray said restricting lawful handgun ownership will not meaningfully address the real problem, while president of the National Police Federation Brian Sauvé said the proposed legislation “primarily” targets legal firearm owners who have followed government regulations.

https://tnc.news/2022/11/24/firearms-hunters/
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Worth a Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnK1a228RcA
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What to do?

From the CCFR:

Bury their desks in letters!!!

I know ... I'm sick of it all too. But our silence is consent. We spend how much time commiserating on social media or with friends about the Liberal government's constant attack on the legal firearm community? Let's refocus some of that time on flooding their offices, and burying their desks in letters. Yes, I mean paper letters. Here's why. 

https://firearmrights.ca/bury-their-desks-in-letters
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Provinces Oppose Proposed Expanded Firearms Ban

CANADA, November 25 - Released on November 24, 2022

Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba are united in opposing a proposed ban that would affect hundreds of thousands of firearms owners in Western Canada:

On November 22, through last-minute amendments to Bill C-21, the federal government moved to ban hundreds of new models of legally owned firearms and shotguns.

The amendments will criminalize hunters, farmers and target shooters who collectively own hundreds of thousands of firearms that could soon be prohibited.

"If these amendments are allowed to proceed, Bill C-21 will be the most sweeping and arbitrary ban of firearms in Canadian history. The federal Liberals claimed that they were never going after hunters, farmers and target shooters - they lied. This is clearly part of a push to ban legal firearms ownership altogether." Tyler Shandro, Minister of Justice for Alberta

"The rifles and shotguns that law-abiding Saskatchewan farmers, hunters, and sport shooters use will soon be confiscated by the Trudeau - NDP government. These men and women will be criminalized overnight. Saskatchewan will not stand idly by while the federal government yet again attacks law-abiding citizens instead of focusing on crime." Christine Tell, Minister of Corrections, Policing and Public Safety for Saskatchewan

"Manitoba continues to raise significant concerns regarding the proposed measures that will punish law-abiding firearms owners while doing little to address illegal importation of firearms from the United States. The federal government should focus its attention and resources on illegally imported firearms, and those who commit crime with guns, instead of measures that target law abiding citizens. Manitoba's government stands united with Saskatchewan and Alberta in opposing the federal Liberal government's confiscation plans." Kelvin Goertzen Minister of Justice and Attorney General for Manitoba.

https://www.einpresswire.com/article/603118089/provinces-oppose-proposed-expanded-firearms-ban
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Trudeau targets hunters with gun bill changes that assault Canadian heritage

The Trudeau Liberals aren’t even hiding it anymore, they are coming for hunting rifles and shotguns.

That theory became reality, and fact, on Tuesday when the Liberals unveiled a number of amendments to their gun control legislation known as Bill C-21.

In May 2020, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced an immediate ban on what he called “military-style assault weapons.” The Liberals portrayed this as taking “weapons of war” off the streets.

“You don’t need an AR-15 to take down a deer,” Trudeau famously said.

Maybe you don’t and most hunters I know wouldn’t use an AR-15 for deer hunting, but the Remington 742 and rifles like it have been used for deer hunting for decades. That rifle and those like it will now be banned.

One of the Liberal amendments to their own bill, only moved for vote after all witnesses have been heard from and testimony concluded, will ban hundreds more models of rifles and shotguns.

The changes in the amendment make it very different from the bill that was sold to the public, one that was focused on dangerous weapons used in American mass shootings – now it’s about hunting rifles and shotguns.

The changes will potentially add $1 billion or more to the cost of the buyback that is attached to the legislation. You can’t ban millions of additional firearms, including some of the most widely-held guns in Canada, without driving up the already exorbitant cost.

This move could be flippantly described as political theatre aimed at convincing voters that the government is doing something. The problem is this move is more insidious than that alone.

It is also an all-out attack on Canada’s hunting and shooting history.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeau-targets-hunters-with-gun-bill-changes-that-assault-canadian-heritage/wcm/c38ab4ab-2e72-4b34-a542-b85d93b88da5/amp/
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