Trudeau promises more gun control and goes on the attack against Scheer

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Re: Trudeau promises more gun control and goes on the attack against Scheer

Post by IronNoggin » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:36 pm

I would not be betting the farm on Boy Blunder's return :wink:

Scheer, Singh make confident pitch to voters as polls move to favour Conservatives


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/scheer-singh-voters-election-pitch-1.5319507

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Post by IronNoggin » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:42 pm

Liberal Gun Bans Won’t Stop Gangs, Ex-RCMP Clement Tells CBC

https://thegunblog.ca/2019/10/15/liberal-gun-bans-wont-stop-gangs-ex-rcmp-clement-tells-cbc/
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Post by Patcon » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:00 pm

IronNoggin wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:57 pm
Watch out for Liberal gun plan and hunting rifles

“In his efforts to pander to ‘progressive voters in the Toronto region, Justin Trudeau promised to ban 250,000 rifles,” said the headline on executive director Tony Bernardo’s letter, labelled “COMMENTARY” in boldface.

“There are only 75,000 AR-15 target rifles registered with the RCMP,” Bernardo’s newsletter says.

“So the obvious question for owners of ‘Non-Restricted rifles is this: “How many of my guns is Trudeau going to confiscate?” the letter says.

“A list will be provided and presented at the appropriate time when we bring forward those new regulations,” said Blair, in the half-hour exchange later posted on the CCFR’s Facebook page.

Giltaca and the CCFR have also warned the Liberal gun plan will eventually extend to non-restricted rifles and shotguns.

https://ipolitics.ca/2019/10/10/watch-out-for-liberal-gun-plan-and-hunting-rifles-sport-shooter-warns/
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Re: Trudeau promises more gun control and goes on the attack against Scheer

Post by IronNoggin » Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:21 am

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will elaborate on his plans for mass gun bans against hunters, farmers and sport shooters after parliament resumes next month, the office of his minister for confiscation said today.

Federally licensed firearm users are working to stop or avoid Trudeau’s incarceration/confiscation orders and wondering how soon they may take effect following his Oct. 21 re-election.


https://thegunblog.ca/2019/10/24/trudeau-to-update-on-gun-bans-after-nov-20-blairs-office-says/

... the Premier has been clear on a hand gun ban. The Premier doesn’t believe in blaming law-abiding hunters and gun-owners for the crimes of gang members. He supports evidence based decisions and stands with of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police.

https://thegunblog.ca/2019/10/24/ontario-premier-fords-office-comments-on-trudeau-gun-bans/
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Re: Trudeau promises more gun control and goes on the attack against Scheer

Post by IronNoggin » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:47 pm

What's coming down the pipe? A Look into CSSA’s Crystal Ball
by Tony Bernardo - CSSA Executive Director

Many (many!) firearm owners have called and written since the election asking, “What will happen next?” Here’s what we know so far, and what we foresee in the near future.

Bill C-71 will be implemented, in full, probably by the new year. This will do several things – none of them good.

First, owners of Swiss Arms Classic firearms and CZ-858 rifles will be forced to register them as “Prohibited” 12(11) and 12(14) firearms. They will be permitted to keep these guns (for now), and these firearms will have range privileges attached to their “Prohibited” designation.

Registered owners will also have grandfathering “privileges” (aka confiscation by the State when you die) added to their firearm licenses.

There may be a time lag as CFOs across Canada change Range Permits to reflect the legislative shift, i.e., a change from “All ‘Non-Restricted’ firearms and 12(6) handguns” to “All ‘Non-Restricted’ firearms, 12(6) handguns, 12(11) and 12(14) rifles.”

How long will these changes take? We don’t know, so stay tuned.

Second, anyone wishing to transfer a Non-Restricted firearm will be forced to obtain a reference number from the Canadian Firearms Centre (CFC). An owner must contact the CFC, enter the Possession and Acquisition License (PAL) information for both the seller and buyer in order to obtain a reference number before a sale, loan or gift transaction may be completed.

This is a permanent record – yet the government claims they aren't bringing back a long gun registry. Right…

Third, Retailers will be forced to keep sales records, now deemed to be “government documents,” for 20 years – and must surrender them to the CFO upon demand.

Fourth, automatic Authorizations to Transport (ATT) for travel to and from clubs within the RPAL holder's province of residence for the purpose of target practice will remain as they are today. ATTs to bring a firearm home from a sale will also be automatic.

However, a new ATT will be required to take a firearm to a gun store, a gunsmith, a gun show and a border crossing. It is unknown if these will be paper or electronic ATTs.

Fifth, our elected officials, the people we elect to make our laws, will no longer be involved in firearms classifications. The RCMP has sole authority to classify firearms and there is no appeal mechanism to correct their (many) mistakes.

On October 23, 2019, Prime Minister Trudeau outlined the priorities his new government will address. Firearms issues were not among the priorities stated. However, he fell short of saying they would not be addressed.

The Public Safety Ministry has their marching orders. While their first priority will be breaking in and educating their new Minister (because Ralph Goodale lost his seat!), do not believe for a moment that the firearms file is dead, or even on the back burner. It’s not.

What’s changed is Ottawa’s power dynamic.

With the Trudeau government's new minority stature, the Liberals are dependent on other political parties to help them pass legislation. This requires some “give and take” on the part of the Liberals for most issues, but there is little hope this “give and take” will apply to the firearms file.

On this front, it will only be “take” because the NDP has long supported a ban on black rifles and handguns, as does the Green Party.

While the Bloc Québécois did not declare their position during the election, there is no evidence to support the premise Bloc Québécois will oppose Liberal gun bans.

Trudeau’s Liberal government will have plenty of support to screw over Canadians for their black rifles, and this will not stop at the AR-15.

The Liberals already stated the Mini-14 and Mini-30 rifles, along with the ubiquitous SKS rifle, will be banned and confiscated. There will be many more.

With the NDP, Greens and Bloc Québécois complicit in Trudeau’s gun bans, their expansion to include handguns is a forgone conclusion. While citing their resistance to banning handguns during the election campaign, the Liberals will claim pressure from the NDP, Greens and Bloc Québécois “forced” them into it.

Trudeau will follow New Zealand’s example, so pump-action and lever action rifles and shotguns can't be far behind.

Despite Trudeau's claim he respects hunters, it’s clear these assurances were little more than lip service designed to appeal to the feeble minded.

Clearly there is no place for Canada's 2.2 million gun owners in Trudeau's confederation. But once again, CSSA will be at the head of the pack, working to protect the rights of Canada's gun owners. Stay tuned for more!

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Re: Trudeau promises more gun control and goes on the attack against Scheer

Post by IronNoggin » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:42 pm

Ottawa – December 2, 2019

In anticipation of the return to parliament this week, the CCFR’s Tracey Wilson penned and submitted a letter to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Minister of Public Safety & Emergency Preparedness Bill Blair. The letter was sent on behalf of licensed, legal, RCMP vetted gun owners from coast to coast to coast to implore the Liberal government to focus on actual crime and violence rather than implement expensive punitive measures against the very people not committing the crime.

Canadians deserve more than political theatre from our leaders

The Letter:

Hon. Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada Hon. Bill Blair, Minister of Public Safety & Emergency Preparedness House of Commons Ottawa, Canada

Dear Sirs, We write to you today to express our grave concern with some proposed policies coming from your government. As you are aware, there are over 2.2 million licensed, RCMP vetted gun owners across our nation who participate in the shooting sports safely and without issue. We also have a rising gang violence issue in many of our cities and urban areas, fueled by the illicit drug trade and armed with illegal, smuggled guns. These two statements are easily validated and separate in nature.

Your government is considering implementing firearms bans and a buy back program for legal guns. This would be a huge undertaking, with considerable costs rising into the hundreds of millions of dollars, just for sporting rifles alone. If you were to add handguns to the equation this project could soar well into the billion-dollar mark. Historically, firearms have a history in this country since long before Confederation and Canadians own them for good and sufficient reasons. It is well established that they are not the source of violent crime.

Measures such as gun bans would also cost Canada tens of thousands of jobs, close family businesses that have survived generations of ownership and remove billions of dollars from our GDP and tax revenue sources, all with no credible evidence it would have a positive impact on public safety.

We are of the opinion, after consulting with victims groups, survivors impacted by the trauma of gun violence, at-risk youth programs, law enforcement leaders, Canadian Chiefs of Police, and other experts, that these considerable resources would be better served addressing the root causes of violence, treating the victims of trauma, increasing technology at the border to reduce smuggling of illicit firearms and invest in the community programs that would benefit the people most affected. It is noted that none of these groups support gun bans of any kind.

We ask you to consider more effective measures and listen to the voices of those most affected. This country doesn’t operate on unlimited funds, so it is incumbent on all of us to reject the idea of costly and ineffective bans and re-focus on more beneficial measures.

Tracey Wilson VP, Public Relations – Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights [email protected]

https://firearmrights.ca/en/ccfr-issues-letter-to-the-liberal-government/
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Post by IronNoggin » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:46 pm

... we have a problem with illegally smuggled handguns being used to commit crimes and the government will spend near double buying back legal guns than they will spend on dealing with crime guns.

Specifically on the issue of stopping guns at the border, the government plans to spend seven times more on buying back legal guns than they will spend on stopping the smuggling.

On what planet does this make sense?


https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-trudeau-to-spend-double-disarming-hunters-than-hell-spend-fighting-gangs
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