Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by nchunter » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:56 pm

Pretty depressing to discover that corruption is EVERYWHERE, isn’t it?

I’ve gotten to the point where I no longer wonder why there’s hellholes like Somalia and Afghanistan. Instead I marvel that there’s ANYPLACE that’s NOT like Somalia and Afghanistan!

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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by IronNoggin » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:24 pm

What will make you safer is targeting the smugglers who supply gangs with illegal guns from the U.S. and hunting down those who use them in crimes.

Blair made a good announcement on Tuesday in giving money to Ontario to fight gangs and guns. Let’s hope he doesn’t ruin it by attacking duck hunters and sports shooters because they are easier targets than gangsters.


https://www.kenoradailyminerandnews.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-blair-touts-gun-ban-that-makes-no-sense/wcm/25b7cee0-0c77-4e9e-87fc-a08162e8a38e
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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by artifact » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:44 pm

nchunter wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:56 pm
Pretty depressing to discover that corruption is EVERYWHERE, isn’t it?
I’ve gotten to the point where I no longer wonder why there’s hellholes like Somalia and Afghanistan. Instead I marvel that there’s ANYPLACE that’s NOT like Somalia and Afghanistan!

Give it time, they're working on it!

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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by IronNoggin » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:18 pm

'Experts' ignore facts when it comes to gun control in Canada

Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale, Bill Blair, the minister of Border Security and Organized Crime Reduction and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau continue to hint at a ban on handguns and further restrictions on rifles and shotguns before this fall’s general election.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/gunter-experts-ignore-facts-when-it-comes-to-gun-control-in-canada
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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by IronNoggin » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:17 pm

Bill C-71 is an utter and tragic failure

http://www.donplett.ca/my-work/articles-and-speeches/bill-c-71-is-an-utter-and-tragic-failure/
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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by IronNoggin » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:31 pm

RELEASED: 191 PAGES OF BILL BLAIR’S BAN HANDGUNS CONSULTATIONS

https://dennisryoung.ca/2019/03/29/released-191-pages-of-bill-blairs-ban-handguns-consultations/
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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by IronNoggin » Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:33 pm

The Globe and Mail editorial board has thought long and awful hard about it, and it has decided Canada should ban handguns. Gun control is a topical issue of late, with the Danforth shooting in Toronto last summer, the recent massacre in New Zealand, and a fairly consistent churn of atrocities in the United States. It’s a shame the Globe editorialists didn’t think a bit longer and harder, though. If they had, they might have caught the variety of factual errors in their piece, and maybe — just maybe — noticed the massive failure in logic at the heart of their proposal.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/matt-gurney-the-globe-and-mails-little-and-big-gun-control-screwups
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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by IronNoggin » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:24 pm

Gun Control: When emotions trump facts

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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by IronNoggin » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:15 pm

“To further restrict handguns for law abiding firearms owners is like trying to prevent drunk driving by making it harder for sober drivers to own cars.”

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/do-the-results-of-government-questionnaire-on-handguns-truly-reflect-how-canadians-feel

Actually kind of funny in a way.
Socialists certainly stand firmly behind their results from openly acknowledged "vulnerable to manipulation" polls when they swing to their favor, but scream blue murder when they don't.
More of your tax dollars well wasted it would seem...

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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by IronNoggin » Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:21 pm

Canadian MDs are pointing fingers at guns to divert attention from their inability to deal with medical mistakes. More people die from hospital mistakes than from guns, but the anti-gun MDs would rather politicians and the public have somebody else to blame.

Between 24,000 and 43,000 people die each year in Canada, studies estimate from medical mistakes. This is roughly 10 times as many who die from firearms.


https://www.halifaxmedicalmalpracticelawyerblog.com/2014/07/how_often_does_medical_malprac/
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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by IronNoggin » Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:59 pm

I am an emergency physician working at both academic and community emergency departments in Ontario. I was recently asked to sign a petition in support of a National Day of Action organized by the Canadian Doctors for Protection from Guns (CDPG) to ban “assault weapons” and handguns. This recently formed organization is not representative of a majority of physicians or health-care workers and I feel the need to respond with an alternative perspective.

Firearms laws in Canada are some of the most stringent and comprehensive in the world. Statistics show that we are a very safe country with low baseline crime and suicide rates that have been steadily dropping, with peaks and ebbs, over the past four decades. The recent statistics that some have used to counter those data are parsed from specific geographical areas and interval timelines with biased manipulation to suit the purposes of interest groups.


https://nationalpost.com/opinion/i-treated-victims-at-the-ecole-polytechnique-massacre-i-am-also-a-gun-enthusiast
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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by ihunt » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:48 am

Federal government consultations reveal polarization over idea to ban some guns.

Released April 11.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5158964/gun-bans-canada-consulations/
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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by IronNoggin » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:10 pm

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
April 12, 2019

Gun Ban Ruled Out – For Now

OSHAWA, ON – Crime Reduction Minister Bill Blair’s long-awaited engagement report – Reducing Violent Crime: A Dialogue on Handguns and Assault-Style Firearms – has been released and the outcome of that discourse is somewhat encouraging for Canada’s two-million-plus lawful firearm owners who feared a possible gun ban.

“Those 134,917 participants in the government's online questionnaire overwhelmingly believe that a ban on handguns and so-called “assault-style” firearms targets the wrong people. Law-abiding firearm owners are not the problem, violent criminals possessing illicit guns are,” said Tony Bernardo, Executive Director of the Canadian Shooting Sports Association. “Our organization is not surprised by this conclusion and we said as much during the Minister’s in-person roundtable held in Toronto last fall."

CSSA representatives attended the Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal consultations.

At that roundtable, the CSSA also noted that there is no statistical evidence that the banning of civilian firearms would have an impact on the criminal misuse of guns. The only data that was available came from the Toronto Police Service, and it showed that politicians had been grossly misrepresenting the proportion of firearms that originated from our community.

“We agree that a multi-faceted approach (such as more community-based programs, enhanced law enforcement and border services, and harsher punishments and penalties for gun-related crime) is key if we are to reduce the illicit use of firearms. Imposing a gun ban ‘in isolation’ as the Minister noted, is useless,” said Mr. Bernardo.

“Our organization would welcome the opportunity to confer with Ministers Goodale and Blair and the Firearms Advisory Committee to help develop some real solutions to these serious firearm issues,” said Mr. Bernardo. The CSSA was a long-standing member of the federal government’s Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee, the purpose of which, among other things, is to provide the Public Safety Minister with advice on matters relating to Canada’s firearms policies, laws and regulations.

The Engagement Report will now be used to assist the federal government in developing any future changes it may wish to apply to firearm laws… “while not impeding the lawful use of firearms by Canadians,” as stated in the report.

"While it appears there will be no gun ban in our immediate future, the CSSA will continue its efforts to ensure the government of Canada understands and respects our Canadian firearm traditions and the rights of responsible Canadians to have lawful access to their firearms.
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The full text of the report is here.

For further information, please contact:
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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by IronNoggin » Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:55 pm

Bill Blair, Border Security and Organized Crime Reduction Minister, refused to tell the Senate Committee on National Security and Defence if a government-initiated report on the effects of a handgun ban would be finished by the time of the election.

“Canadians expect us to take the time to do it right and I’ve been doing my very best to take that time,” Blair said.


He did the same thing FIVE times (taking lessons on how NOT to answer a question I guess) in an interview just today.

https://tnc.news/2019/04/12/trudeau-government-will-consider-handgun-ban-if-re-elected/

More vote seeking already in action...

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Re: Evidence does not support call for gun bans in Canada

Post by IronNoggin » Fri May 10, 2019 4:13 pm

Canada’s system of gun control cost taxpayers over $2 billion, even though no convincing evidence has been found demonstrating that clamping down on law-abiding citizens has reduced criminal violence

The focus on “assault style” firearms might even be a red herring to distract attention from the failure of Canada’s police agencies to cope with challenges such as escalating gang violence, money laundering in casinos and property markets, and threats from Chinese cyber attacks. Our national police force, the RCMP, is stretched thin trying to cover all these problems. Expanding the firearms bureaucracy is not the best strategy for enhancing public safety.

We need to recognize that worries about scary-looking firearms are misplaced. Canada is facing real problems that are fundamentally more important.

https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/may-2019/assault-style-firearms-arent-problem/
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