Accurate?
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Accurate?
I'm fed up with my Firebolts. I have approximatly 20+ and at best can get 3 to group at a time. I would like suggestions on a maker/brand or both that I could just grab one without looking and know it's gonna hit where I put it with the one before. I can do this if I match them up but now I'm down to 2 or 3 matches. This is all off bench. I know what I have will probably kill a deer but off a bench I would expect better. They are numbered and each hit the same spot as previous but not close to others. I hope you know what I mean. Thanks, David
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Boo String's
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Firebolts,110 brass inserts,blazers w/100gr.Grim Reapers
Groundpounder mount
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Boo String's
Sure-Fire mounted on front
Firebolts,110 brass inserts,blazers w/100gr.Grim Reapers
Groundpounder mount
STS
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Re: Accurate?
what weight head are you using?
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Re: Accurate?
David, tell us about your arrows. The fletchings, inserts, and as One Shot Scott referred to, your choice of head. Tell us what you have.
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Re: Accurate?
Try this to see if it might help. On your Excalibur there is a black plastic shim to protect the fiberglass limb from the aluminum riser pocket ( between where the limb bolts to the riser). This black plastic often protrudes into the riser valley and may contact the vanes upon exit. Trim this plastic flush with the riser valley with a sharp razor blade.
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Re: Accurate?
100gn. field tip, Plastic has been trimmed since day one and fletching is 5" that came with the arrows. Thanks guys, I hope this helps help me
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Boo String's
Sure-Fire mounted on front
Firebolts,110 brass inserts,blazers w/100gr.Grim Reapers
Groundpounder mount
STS
Boo String's
Sure-Fire mounted on front
Firebolts,110 brass inserts,blazers w/100gr.Grim Reapers
Groundpounder mount
STS
Re: Accurate?
Maybe try 4" offset vanes on the firebolts. All I know is out of the last box I bought 5 fly the same and one hits a little left both with 100gr field tips or broadheads after being resighted for either.
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Re: Accurate?
I'm not any kind of xbow guru, but it's my understanding that Excalibur designed the Firebolt to shoot heavier heads such as the 150 grain Bolt Cutters. My Firebolts do well with 150 grain heads but not so great with lighter heads, especially the 100 grain broadheads.
Carbon Express crossbow arrows come with a weight forward design. I've never shot them, but from what I've read, they do well with lighter heads.
I do shoot Gold Tip Laser II's and Laster II Kinetics and both fly well out of my Axiom with light broadheads, but of course they have heavier brass inserts up front.
I'd try a heavier broadhead and if that didn't make 'em behave, I'd try either the Gold Tips or Carbon Express', whatever you can get a hold of locally.
Carbon Express crossbow arrows come with a weight forward design. I've never shot them, but from what I've read, they do well with lighter heads.
I do shoot Gold Tip Laser II's and Laster II Kinetics and both fly well out of my Axiom with light broadheads, but of course they have heavier brass inserts up front.
I'd try a heavier broadhead and if that didn't make 'em behave, I'd try either the Gold Tips or Carbon Express', whatever you can get a hold of locally.
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Re: Accurate?
Hey guys I appreciate all the input and will take it to heart but when I bought mine in 07 they were "designed" for 100gr. I don't care if I have to go up in weight but there is not much choice when you do. If I can get an arrow that's heavier that shoots with a lighter broadhead I'm all for it, but for now I'm just trying to get the arrows I have to shoot somewhat with what I have. Like I said before, the ones I have will shoot in the same spot for that arrow but the next one is in another spot everytime. The arrows shoot consistantly, but not with each other. So if I could find some others that would keep together better than a Middle School Dance I'm all for it. If someone knows of someone that puts together something better than off the shelf stuff I'm all for that too. ThanksOkXbowHunter wrote:I'm not any kind of xbow guru, but it's my understanding that Excalibur designed the Firebolt to shoot heavier heads such as the 150 grain Bolt Cutters. My Firebolts do well with 150 grain heads but not so great with lighter heads, especially the 100 grain broadheads.
Carbon Express crossbow arrows come with a weight forward design. I've never shot them, but from what I've read, they do well with lighter heads.
I do shoot Gold Tip Laser II's and Laster II Kinetics and both fly well out of my Axiom with light broadheads, but of course they have heavier brass inserts up front.
I'd try a heavier broadhead and if that didn't make 'em behave, I'd try either the Gold Tips or Carbon Express', whatever you can get a hold of locally.
Vortex
Boo String's
Sure-Fire mounted on front
Firebolts,110 brass inserts,blazers w/100gr.Grim Reapers
Groundpounder mount
STS
Boo String's
Sure-Fire mounted on front
Firebolts,110 brass inserts,blazers w/100gr.Grim Reapers
Groundpounder mount
STS
Re: Accurate?
I have no idea, but If I can't get these to suite me then probably cheap.See4miles wrote:How much you want for them?
Vortex
Boo String's
Sure-Fire mounted on front
Firebolts,110 brass inserts,blazers w/100gr.Grim Reapers
Groundpounder mount
STS
Boo String's
Sure-Fire mounted on front
Firebolts,110 brass inserts,blazers w/100gr.Grim Reapers
Groundpounder mount
STS
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Re: Accurate?
Are you cocking the bow by hand , using a rope cocker or crank?
Hand cocking can cause inconsistent groups.
Hand cocking can cause inconsistent groups.
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Re: Accurate?
You can use a brass front insert, that would bring your F.O.C up and let you continue to use 100g heads.
Is it only the farther ranges where you are having a problem?
Is it only the farther ranges where you are having a problem?
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Re: Accurate?
i had the same trouble so itried brass inserts on some still same problem with all weight heads so i went and bought gt lazer 11 with 110 gr brass inserts blazer broadhead 2 inch fletching off set 4 degrees squared all shafts and inserts with g5 tool now shoot 100 gr heads muzzys,tec 3,rage,practice points no more flyers
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Re: Accurate?
Rope cocker, Arrows sent with package, plus extras I bought. I numbered each arrow and each one will hit same spot but not same spot as others. Maybe I'm being anal, but at 20 I have 2 1/2 groups out of 12. They do this at 20yds, I can only imagine what it would be at 40. I have come to the conclusion that it's the arrow. Can anyone point me to someone who can make a consistant arrow. Don't need bling but would appreciate it if so .
Vortex
Boo String's
Sure-Fire mounted on front
Firebolts,110 brass inserts,blazers w/100gr.Grim Reapers
Groundpounder mount
STS
Boo String's
Sure-Fire mounted on front
Firebolts,110 brass inserts,blazers w/100gr.Grim Reapers
Groundpounder mount
STS