Brace height vs speed

[Boo]

I'm trying to replay everything back in my head after the arrow spit out,and the second one did the same. It was like what the hell just happened. then I noticed Adf system was malfunctioning. So it's possible that it was in the downcycle to catch the string. when I placed my arrow in the Rail it was actually hitting the ADF latch and not hitting the string err.
But just a maybe. Would that semi-dry fire cause my limb to fracture?
I also would still love to know why with the new brace hight/string why I'm loosing 12fps

Without question, a semi dry-fire can cause limb damage. Take a good look for a split in your arrow near the nock. Also, look for any mushroomed/distorted plastic nocks.

[paulaboutform]

I'm trying to replay everything back in my head after the arrow spit out,and the second one did the same. It was like what the hell just happened. then I noticed Adf system was malfunctioning. So it's possible that it was in the downcycle to catch the string. when I placed my arrow in the Rail it was actually hitting the ADF latch and not hitting the string err.
But just a maybe. Would that semi-dry fire cause my limb to fracture?
I also would still love to know why with the new brace hight/string why I'm loosing 12fps

Different limbs can have even more than 12fps just because one set can be heavier than the next. Not really an issue. Secondly, strings can also affect speed considerably. Eg., a 40 strand Flemish string will be significantly slower than a factory endless loop string.

Paul

[Trentco1]

Thanks guys for the input!
last question for now. Is there a diffrece between these two strings other then the colour. The blue one was original one on it.before the limb snapped [/img][URL=http://s465.photobucket.com/user/trents ... d.jpg.html]

[robertyb]

Thanks guys for the input!
last question for now. Is there a diffrece between these two strings other then the colour. The blue one was original one on it.before the limb snapped [/img][URL=http://s465.photobucket.com/user/trents ... d.jpg.html]

Pretty sure the only differences are color and the green factory string is made shorter so the string will not be under normal brace height while sitting on the dealers shelves the way the old strings were. Take a tape measure to them and see.

[wildcatter]

ya its hard to see the model # and that is what would matter, the new 405 and Micros with the swept back riser could possible use a shorter string than the first generation models, but if so this worse than what chevy did with loss of the small block!! everything should fit and be able to be swapped out to every engine as everything should be able to be swapped out to every Matrix!

True High Performance efficiency!!

[Trentco1]

Got to love ya guys!
Thing is the blue sting was the one on it when I bought it.the bow was shooting 327fps. I know it it could be partial to changing the limbs but I do want some of my speed back it's driving me crazy

[wildcatter]

If smoother quieter shooting or more consistent or more accurate in any kind of breeze and wind matters I would give another 10 fps or so and get that arrow weight up there around 390 400 grains,,, just me, but 10 or 15 mph is meaningless for trajectory!!

[Trentco1]

Thanks for the info.
I'm shooting a total weight of 370gr now ann being a newbee there's a lot to absorb, I also have a billion questions. so I might drive a few of you guys nuts! Anyway that's what everyone else is saying heavier weight more accurate less drifting of in the wind, so do I go with a heavier Bh up front or some kind of insert along the way to give that weight also with adding more weight I will lose more speed how can I increase the speed. Everyone talks about Flemish string but the factory strings seem to be faster why would you want to add Flemish String?

[Boo]

Flemish strings are less noisy, softer on the shot, easier on the bow and stronger at the loops. Speed loss is minimal but can be made with less strands to match the speeds of an endless.

[sproulman]

In my opinion but new to crossbow so take it for what its worth..Why does speed matter when a hunter with common sense will not shoot Buck over 40 yards and average is 25/30 yards?Maybe I missed something hunting with recurve for 52 years?Myself I want most accurate arrow not if it gets their faster which some say faster means less drop at long ranges ..But does it matter if your shots are under 35 yards?Speed is selling like crazy at my bow shop young kids only ask HOW fast is bow they do not care if its excalibur or 10 point etc..

[wildcatter]

But does it matter if your shots are under 35 yards?Speed is selling like crazy at my bow shop young kids only ask HOW fast is bow they do not care if its excalibur or 10 point etc..

sad but true,, one reason why so many buy Barnett,,,,, cost per fps is how they determine the bow fer them,,,,,

[sproulman]

But does it matter if your shots are under 35 yards?Speed is selling like crazy at my bow shop young kids only ask HOW fast is bow they do not care if its excalibur or 10 point etc..

sad but true,, one reason why so many buy Barnett,,,,, cost per fps is how they determine the bow fer them,,,,,

Funny top bow champ at shop in pa shoots a compound bow..I said are crossbow selling/he said Jim NO.. They are too noisy BUT kids are always asking about that new fast bow way over 400 fps I forgot name of it...That was surprise to me selling more compound bows than crossbows I expected opposite..

[Crazy Horse]

In my opinion but new to crossbow so take it for what its worth..Why does speed matter when a hunter with common sense will not shoot Buck over 40 yards and average is 25/30 yards?Maybe I missed something hunting with recurve for 52 years?Myself I want most accurate arrow not if it gets their faster which some say faster means less drop at long ranges ..But does it matter if your shots are under 35 yards?Speed is selling like crazy at my bow shop young kids only ask HOW fast is bow they do not care if its excalibur or 10 point etc..

To each their own. The reason that I got the fastest bow available (M405) is that I can shoot a heavy arrow and still retain good speed. As we all know, crossbows are loud compared to compound bows. The faster that I can deliver my arrow, the less chance of the dreaded "arrow duck" or anything else changing from the time I pull the trigger to final delivery.
These East Texas deer are skiddish, to say the least.
My set up looks like this:
485 grains total weight
360 fps
Right at 140 ft. lbs of energy.
Works for me.

[sproulman]

In my opinion but new to crossbow so take it for what its worth..Why does speed matter when a hunter with common sense will not shoot Buck over 40 yards and average is 25/30 yards?Maybe I missed something hunting with recurve for 52 years?Myself I want most accurate arrow not if it gets their faster which some say faster means less drop at long ranges ..But does it matter if your shots are under 35 yards?Speed is selling like crazy at my bow shop young kids only ask HOW fast is bow they do not care if its excalibur or 10 point etc..

To each their own. The reason that I got the fastest bow available (M405) is that I can shoot a heavy arrow and still retain good speed. As we all know, crossbows are loud compared to compound bows. The faster that I can deliver my arrow, the less chance of the dreaded "arrow duck" or anything else changing from the time I pull the trigger to final delivery.
These East Texas deer are skiddish, to say the least.
My set up looks like this:
485 grains total weight
360 fps
Right at 140 ft. lbs of energy.
Works for me.

From what I read here heavy arrow is more accurate out past 40 yds..I agree on duck of arrow because of snap from crossbow even tho I never got Buck with crossbow only makes sense and if someday a crossbow can be quiet I believe that would be plus...Most here say snap of crossbow does not matter and getting to Buck faster I can see that being plus also ...Buck can duck even with my fred bear recurve at 15 yards storys I could tell on that too....But is there really that much of difference at 35 yards max between slower crossbow and faster one on Buck
?

[Trentco1]

My Next question is since they changed my limbs and I'm hoping that they changed both of them, is there a serial number on the limbs to tell if they're the same.
I had a good look but didn't see anything