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Anti dry fire

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Daughters boyfriend bought a brand new Matrix Grizzly.

I taught him all the ins and outs of the bow and really emphasized to not dry fire it because it didn't come with the anti dry fire mount. :eusa-naughty:

Yep he dry fired it and broke a limb. :thumbdown:

Got me thinking that the dry fire mount really should be standard on all éxcalibur bows. :mrgreen:

It would increase the bow cost slightly but I am sure new users wouldn't mind a little cost upfront to save much potential aggrevation and a damaged bow.

Now he will be out the hundred bucks for new limbs.. :(

Just my 2 cents!! :)
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Jeez that didn't take long
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The anti dry fire devices are great but the whole Idea on the grizzly package is a high preforming bow at a lower cost and no adf keeps the price down but would be one of my first upgrades for the bow , I hope he has one sent with his limbs it is a lot of peace of mind once you have been inaugurated into the dry fire club.
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I hope you stress to him to keep his fingers out of the danger zone!
I don't use a adf on my 355. Never have had an incident. I always double check
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janesy wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:43 pm
Jeez that didn't take long
Not long at all!
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I have been criticized before but l dont have an adf on any of my bows .Even my micro is naked. I'm very anal about checking before I shoot never had an issue . I just dont want one. No problem with them l think it's a great safety valve for people who need them.l just never needed one.lts just kind of embedded in my brain to look before l shoot.lm surprised the grizz didn't shrug off a dryfire actually.l know a bozo who dryfired his axiom about 20 times already .......lts still kicking and killing deer every year but its a long limber.
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Just think of it as an educational opportunity.

If you, (the Old Geezer), was right as far as your warnings about making sure there was an arrow loaded, you just might have earned yourself a bit more credibility. Maybe now he'll also believe you about keeping his fingers out of trouble. Heck, who knows what other bits of wisdom you will be able to offer that will be gladly received.
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I doubt that it will cost him more than the cost of shipping the old limbs back IF they request them.
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I've never dry fired and I hope I never do. My Axiom doesn't have the ADF but I would be willing to put one on it just in case. If I did that and broke a limb my Dad would have me paying to fix it and fixing it myself. I'd be taking time off from hunting waiting for that to happen! I always think, what if it was a gun? Use safety and keep finger away from trigger. You know if there is an arrow there or not and check it often. Still, a mistake could happen.
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XB I GO wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:37 am
Still, a mistake could happen.
We are all human and will on occasion make a stupid mistake. I've made my share of them for sure.

I dry fired my Exomax once last year and that made the decision for me to get an ADF. I could of lost some very valuable Rut time in the woods but was lucky. The ADF saved me once already this year from a dry fire. So easy to get distracted and forgot to load an arrow. Seems totally nuts to do such a thing but I did. One of my buddies did that to and now has a splinter on one of his Equinox limbs.

Seems the ADF could also limit the damage for a partial dry fire as well, i.e. arrow nock not seated.

Cheap insurance I think for idiots like me.

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ko4nrbs wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:18 pm

Seems the ADF could also limit the damage for a partial dry fire as well, i.e. arrow nock not seated.
Here is that exact scenario played out. Imagine what the limbs would have looked like had the ADF not caught the string. This was a BD380. Thats a lot of energy to break an arrow in half. Rather not have that happen near my face

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Most dry fires happen target shooting getting distracted, very rare in hunting situations.
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XB I GO wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:37 am
I've never dry fired and I hope I never do. My Axiom doesn't have the ADF but I would be willing to put one on it just in case. If I did that and broke a limb my Dad would have me paying to fix it and fixing it myself. I'd be taking time off from hunting waiting for that to happen! I always think, what if it was a gun? Use safety and keep finger away from trigger. You know if there is an arrow there or not and check it often. Still, a mistake could happen.
I hate to tell you this but it is not if you have a dry fire, it is when you have a dry fire. I went about 7 years before I had one and I did have an ADF on my bow so there was no damage at all. All it takes is a small distraction or even an arrow not being quite seated to happen. I would have had another as I pulled the trigger on my Scorpyd Deathstalker one day without an arrow loaded but the way the bow is built it will not dry fire if an arrow is not loaded (thank god). My advise is to get an ADF for your bow but with the Axiom you can probably dry fire it all day without hurting the limbs. It is a tough bow but should you splinter a limb I am sure Excalibur will cover it under warranty. Just call Danny Miller. :)
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would they consider limbs to be cracked due to dry fire a non warranty?
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